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pokute

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Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« on: August 19, 2010, 07:18:19 pm »

I've changed dwarf ethics in entity_default.txt to:
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]

I've added
[COMMON_DOMESTIC][TRAINABLE][PET] under [CREATURE:DWARF] in creature_standard.txt

But the dwarves are still not showing up on my butcher menu.  What else am I missing?

Edit: It turns out I am able to set the dwarf for slaughter from the individual's status menu, but I can no longer enable labors if they are slaughterable...  Is there some way around this?
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2010, 11:44:37 pm »

I believe you can do this with the Friendship mod.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 04:50:25 am »

no other than keeping truning it off and on.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 12:46:04 pm »

no other than keeping truning it off and on.

Darn. :(
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 01:05:41 pm »

The problem is the [INTELLIGENT] tag.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 08:56:18 pm »

you can use runesmith to butcher them but eating them well haven't been tested well.
 
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 09:24:10 am »

My dwarves munch kobolds. Don't know if they'd eat dead dwarves though.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 02:40:10 pm »

Eating them works, my elves with butchery enabled did it to goblins. I suppose your own civ probably won't work, but none of my elves have died yet (immortality) and I can't make then die (lack of mechanic+miner means no cave-ins/floods), so immigrants might not work. Goblins will though.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 02:58:14 pm »

You should be able to use seperate castes to make all dwarves but your hermit butcherable. Just make a seperate caste for your hermit, and make the others butcherable. Embark, have your hermit eat the non-hermits and kill other possible hermits. Then save, exit and set the population ratio of the edible castes to 10000. This way all your migrants (well, 10000 out of 10001) should be edible while you can still order your hermit around.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 07:22:06 pm »

That's not the problem, it's that the hermit won't butcher it due to being his civ and all.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 09:38:34 pm »

The easiest fix to the ever present issue of dwarf removal, is that you are not using burrows to put them in dangerous situations, such as a retractable bridge over a small pond.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 10:50:35 pm »

Actually it's easiest to just smash them with a bridge, less hauling and items to lag you.
But I'm obviously doing this for flavor (pun intended).

Properly butchering and preparing the immigrants do take a long time tho...
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 01:20:45 am »

I too would like to know how to get my dwarves to eat eachother.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 06:06:46 am »

That's not the problem, it's that the hermit won't butcher it due to being his civ and all.
The point was that you can set them to be slaughtered through the labour screen, removing the step of having to butcher the corpses. I tested this and it works out fine, with dwarf spleen biscuits and dwarf leather hats and all.

We actualy had a rather long discussion about this some time ago, I think it was in the thread of some cuisine mod that wanted to use goblin corpses for stuff.

Result there was that slaughtering is the only way to get dwarves to eat eachother. Once dead the corpses are not only flatly ignored by the butcheries, but also any reactions you can make to use the corpses just wont work. (tested this too, by adding a metarial reaction product tag to the muscle material as well as the reaction. Dwarves would grab camel corpses, but not dwarf corpses, while both had said tag).

As for the slaugtering itself, its probabaly best to use a utility for this if you want your dwarves to both do labour and be edible. I tried numerous ways get them to be butcherable by modding the raws but while some worked they all had some horrible drawback. Like the dwarves not doing labours, never putting down hauled items, not being importable without making every exotic animal importable, etc.
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Re: Trying to make my hermit eat all the immigrants...
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 07:11:32 pm »

Dwarven caravans are edible, apparently. I guess fortress immigrants are considered unbutcherable.
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