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[Footkerchief]

Pottery and other stuff like that is in the bloats.

# Bloat77, CLAY, MUD, ADOBE STUFF, (Future): Can use the kiln, have glazes, etc. Bricks.

As for sand walls etc. -- currently the game doesn't model erosion or anything like that, meaning sand walls are just as permanent as stone ones.  Until this gets addressed, I'd prefer to minimize the number of absurdities.

[Mikademus]

Why shouldn't we be able to make clay?  I'm pretty sure the ancient Romans did.  I don't see what's so un-dwarven about clay burned into a stone form.

Ancient Romans? More like ancient Mesopotamians, and other even older societies. We have clay remains from Jericho, 7000 BC. Romans were a bit more advanced, they knew how to make cement.

[LegoLord]

Why shouldn't we be able to make clay?  I'm pretty sure the ancient Romans did.  I don't see what's so un-dwarven about clay burned into a stone form.

Ancient Romans? More like ancient Mesopotamians, and other even older societies. We have clay remains from Jericho, 7000 BC. Romans were a bit more advanced, they knew how to make cement.

Doesn't mean they never used clay.  But point made.  Cement would also be a good addition, perhaps as a way to fill in dug out tiles.

[Mikademus]

Ancient Romans? More like ancient Mesopotamians, and other even older societies. We have clay remains from Jericho, 7000 BC. Romans were a bit more advanced, they knew how to make cement.

Doesn't mean they never used clay.  But point made.  Cement would also be a good addition, perhaps as a way to fill in dug out tiles.

Hehe, not if Toady sticks to the "pre-14th century technology" maxim he's going by (if interpreted as "medieval" or "dark ages"): cement was forgotten after Rome (from Byzantine time) until the the late medieval age.

[Footkerchief]

Hehe, not if Toady sticks to the "pre-14th century technology" maxim he's going by (if interpreted as "medieval" or "dark ages"): cement was forgotten after Rome (from Byzantine time) until the the late medieval age.

That's meant as a cutoff point.  It's not like bronze was in wide use at that point either.

[Foa]

Why shouldn't we be able to make clay?  I'm pretty sure the ancient Romans did.  I don't see what's so un-dwarven about clay burned into a stone form.

Ancient Romans? More like ancient Mesopotamians, and other even older societies. We have clay remains from Jericho, 7000 BC. Romans were a bit more advanced, they knew how to make cement.

Doesn't mean they never used clay.  But point made.  Cement would also be a good addition, perhaps as a way to fill in dug out tiles.

Dude, cement is an ingredient of concrete, get your constructional terms correct

[Mikademus]

Why shouldn't we be able to make clay?  I'm pretty sure the ancient Romans did.  I don't see what's so un-dwarven about clay burned into a stone form.

Ancient Romans? More like ancient Mesopotamians, and other even older societies. We have clay remains from Jericho, 7000 BC. Romans were a bit more advanced, they knew how to make cement.

Doesn't mean they never used clay.  But point made.  Cement would also be a good addition, perhaps as a way to fill in dug out tiles.

Dude, cement is an ingredient of concrete, get your constructional terms correct

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ce·ment      (sĭ-měnt') 
n. 

   1.
         1. A building material made by grinding calcined limestone and clay to a
            fine powder, which can be mixed with water and poured to set as a
            solid mass or used as an ingredient in making mortar or concrete.
         2. Portland cement.
         3. Concrete.

The word is of latin origin (caementum), while concrete is more modern. What we today call concrete was then known as cement. Cement is still used synonymously with concrete in certain parts or the world.

Compare with:

concrete  (adj.)
1471, from L. concretus, pp. of concrescere "to grow together," from com- "together" + crescere "to grow" (see crescent). A logicians' term until meaning began to expand 1600s. Noun sense of "building material made from cement, etc." is first recorded 1834.

[Rainseeker]

I don't understand it...

How many people here ever made a sand castle?

I assure you that Smoothing Sand and mud walls are more then possible...

Thank you!  I feel vindicated. 

[Felblood]

I would absolutely love to be able to build giant castles from sand, and engrave them with elaborate reliefs.

I do feel that erosion, wall crumbling and other dangers of building a city from sand should be implemented before sand engraving or even smoothing gets put in. You gotta have the groundwork first.

"Captain MadHelm! The goblins have a catapult."

"Blast it all! I knew I should have ordered this thing made out of wood!"

[Rainseeker]

Anyone else wanna put their two cents in?