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newoldbroccoli

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A headless migrant?
« on: August 09, 2015, 02:56:37 pm »

So i was looking at a new migrant wave and i noticed a injured dwarf
so i look at them and see this




She wasn't dead either she flopped on the ground like a dead fish for around a minute.
Then died.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2015, 03:39:30 pm »

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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2015, 10:16:49 pm »

sounds like my current militia captain, who is missing a tongue, and a foot.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2015, 10:31:32 pm »

amazing
did you look her up in legends?
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2015, 10:32:13 pm »

Sometimes world-gen wounds aren't quite realized properly. This can create odd situations.

Examples include an armless or legless migrant arriving wearing gloves or shoes on their missing limbs.

In this instance, the migrant had no neck, and therefore no head with a brain to think with, and thus fell to the ground like a ragdoll. Then she realized she had no throat to breathe through, and suffocated.

Sort of an "Oh right, I'm supposed to be dead" moment.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 12:40:45 am »

Yeah, I think I've seen other people mention that wounds in worldgen sometimes don't take effect until the entity enters the map. Does a creature's neck being gone mean that they were decapitated? I wonder why this doesn't just say the head is missing.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2015, 12:44:28 am »

I wonder why this doesn't just say the head is missing.

Because of how bodyparts attached to each other are processed. Cut off someone's finger and the severed part will be displayed as a finger. Cut off their hand and, despite their fingers also being severed, the severed part is called a hand. So if you cut off someone's neck and head, the severed body part is called the neck and not the head because that's the name of the connecting limb that's closest to the upper body.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2015, 12:53:43 am »

It seems more similar to cutting off a finger at the knuckle and then saying the knuckle is missing. In any case, I think the reason it seems weird to me just has to do with the way people generally categorize external body parts. The neck superficially serves only the purpose of supporting the head, it is practically just a joint as far as structure is concerned, which is what makes it seem strange to say only that the neck is missing. Not only that, one could be decapitated and still have one's neck.

Basically, it seems the game processes body parts differently than I do :)
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2015, 10:05:15 am »

This still happens on 0.42.03 :).
Only head/upperbody/lowerbody destruction is fatal.
Neck is just an extra bodypart; and the game does not realize that the head is destroyed as well.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2015, 10:26:41 am »

It seems more similar to cutting off a finger at the knuckle and then saying the knuckle is missing.

Well yeah, but that's how DF rolls. Undead heads are also called "necks", I was picturing a disgusting neck snaking around until I realized that the entire head is still attached.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2015, 12:04:22 pm »

Cutting off head/lower body doesn't kill undead. Pulping however, does.
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Re: A headless migrant?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2015, 10:44:23 pm »

Not only that, one could be decapitated and still have one's neck.
Well, df writes “his head is gone” in that case.
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