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[Il Palazzo]

Anyone of you old geezers not yet fed up with Natgen?
My latest couple of games were(are) disasters of harebrained slackery, so I think I could use some proper dominions workout.

That is to say, who's up for another Natgen game?

[E. Albright]

I'd be game, actually. Give me a week to get another patch for it out. There's a pile of source changes that I've been picking at, but if I set those aside I can force myself to finish off my content updates, which will add "Marigoni/Renaissance/mercenary" humans, Avvim, and Vaettir, plus some other smaller-scale stuff.

[Il Palazzo]

Let me know when you're ready. Or just start the thread yourself, if you don't mind managing another game.

[Delta Foxtrot]

Thanks for the good game, all. I managed to do some fun stuff while we played. Mass Flight never gets old.

Some drowsy navel gazing from Agor:

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A4D6 Master Lich with awe and T3L3 scales. Gameplan was basically to spam a ton of longdead with some A3/D2 mages to spice things up. I'm quite happy with how that worked out, up until Illen got Purgatory up. That combo'd with blood saccing meant things went downhill for me from that point on.

Lich and awe were a bit wasteful though, I didn't use that immortality too much. D went a bit under utilized but A allowed me to get a few boosters out and play a bit with globals near the end. All in all a nice pretender, even if I overpayed for what I ended up using. It was pretty fun fighting and surviving that.

I can largely agree with Illen in that I wasn't really playing the diplo game. That ended up hitting me pretty badly. Heck, I think I may have started a single war all game (and I ended up fighting everyone I bordered at some time or another). High light for me was probably the three front war I fought briefly at some point before Boksi dropped out and got replaced with Darkwind.

I still need to work on my gem use though. Between decent searching and L3 I managed to get a ton of gems but I don't think I used them as well as I could've. I was fairly liberal with my battle magic gem use, and I got some troll kings and others towards tail end of the game. But too little too late.

Also I really really should have transitioned from longdead to something else, I think. I didn't. Even with all my UD production I had trouble reinforcing enough to keep well stocked armies against Illen & co.

Thanks to Elmokki and Albright for NationGen. And good luck everyone with the next match.

[Darkwind3]

I'm perhaps chiming in a bit late, but one of my other games looks to be ending unexpectedly soon so I'd be willing to join a new nationgen game should one start. I had a blast in this game.

As for a retrospective (short and from memory, though I can go into more detail if needed):

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When I subbed in, the nation wasn't in great condition (though certainly not bad, and with amazing potential). Diplomatically, I ended the war with Agor almost immediately to go after Samarir, which was extremely profitable. I should have gone for Illen afterwards, but I didn't want to try fighting the lead nation with an ally distracted by a 2v1. Instead I fought a nearly-pointless war with Agor long after I was gaining nothing from it. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

I ramped up blood production too slowly, but the financial situation was pretty dire for a while (to the point of being unable to pump mages out of up to half my forts for long stretches of time). By the end I was hunting with 3 mages per province in I believe ~18 provinces (for ~12 slaves/province/turn). At my height I was probably pulling in 200+ blood slaves per turn, and probably should have been hunting more extensively to fund my Horror/Demon Knight habit. Fiery Imps might have been fun too.

In terms of army composition, Demon Knights + Devils + Flaming Arrows spam when possible is an excellent combination. Blood is a good path to have lategame. By the end of the game I was entirely capable of backing up my hordes of ravenous demons with Fog Warriors, Mass Flight, Mas Regeneration, and basically any protection buff you care to name (not that it mattered). I don't think I ever did get to see the crazy morale effects of a charge of hundreds of Demon Knights, sadly. Horror spam received a nerf mid-game but was still fairly effective, and I certainly don't regret investing in it.

I wonder in retrospect whether demonic locusts would have been useful in my situation later in the game - they are heretic 1, after all, albeit extremely expensive.