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Deus Machina

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Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« on: December 18, 2011, 01:19:43 am »

First time playing with temp off, to save FPS. Might turn weather off next time, if it's that big of a jump.

Found a nice sheer 9-level waterfall, but the supply side is frozen! Does that thaw with temp off, or not?
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 01:24:57 am »

It's definitely by temperature, as different places thaw at different times.
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 01:31:11 am »

temp is controlled by biomes which is controlled by which season its in. but you can melt a river by pumping magma under it and make ice traps using the same method. so water melts according the the temp but temp is controlled by the biome and its season.
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 03:58:08 am »

temp is controlled by biomes which is controlled by which season its in. but you can melt a river by pumping magma under it and make ice traps using the same method. so water melts according the the temp but temp is controlled by the biome and its season.

Well, that brings up another question, then. Does the ice need temperature to melt (since it's irrelevant now) or is it melted by the adjacent 'warm stone'?
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 04:29:00 am »

temp is controlled by biomes which is controlled by which season its in. but you can melt a river by pumping magma under it and make ice traps using the same method. so water melts according the the temp but temp is controlled by the biome and its season.

Well, that brings up another question, then. Does the ice need temperature to melt (since it's irrelevant now) or is it melted by the adjacent 'warm stone'?

Which brings up the question: how many tiles does heat transfer? Can it transfer from magma to stone to water, or only magma to water (as is the case if there's only a floor tile between em). In other words, does it only effect whats adjacent, or could I mod in a stone which shines so bright the trees at the edge of the map catch fire?
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 04:33:11 am »

temp is controlled by biomes which is controlled by which season its in. but you can melt a river by pumping magma under it and make ice traps using the same method. so water melts according the the temp but temp is controlled by the biome and its season.

Which brings up the question: how many tiles does heat transfer? Can it transfer from magma to stone to water, or only magma to water (as is the case if there's only a floor tile between em). In other words, does it only effect whats adjacent, or could I mod in a stone which shines so bright the trees at the edge of the map catch fire?
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 05:13:31 am »

Theres another thread about freezing rivers, and in it, they say magma will melt ice thru maximum one layer of stone. 
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Re: Do rivers thaw by season or temperature?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 07:58:54 am »

if you find magma, only the stone directly next, above or under it is "warm stone".

I've noticed that similar biomes may have different freezing times, sometimes a pool freezes early autumn, late autumn or early winter, even though it is all a temperate conifer forrest (temperature temperate, not biome temperate).
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