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MrAnderson

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water -> ice in above ground structures?
« on: July 06, 2011, 04:33:15 pm »

howdy!

today i made a strange discovery: i have a living tower built above ground, with wells in each room (~100). to get those working i built water containing tunnels, with no contact to the outside world except the wells and the river the water is taken from. now, to my problem:
everything is frozen, when it turns winter. as soon as the pump stack goes above ground, there's no more water but ice, same in the water tunnels.
is this normal? i thought, water would never freeze indoors? or is everything "outdoor" as i have balconys without doors? but even then, the pumpstack shouldn't freeze over...

edit: just noticed: all wells were destroyed in the process and replaced by ice, freeing the materials used to build  >:(
« Last Edit: July 06, 2011, 04:37:20 pm by MrAnderson »
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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 04:35:50 pm »

Any square ever exposed to the light of day is forever above ground, and thus will always freeze.  The only way to get a tower with non-freezing water is to carve that tower straight from the bedrock (or rather to excavate everything but the tower)
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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 04:38:49 pm »

 >:(

so 8 years of building a 21-story-tower wasted  :'(
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andrewas

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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 04:40:39 pm »

 Run magma alongside your water lines and it'll keep them from freezing.
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MrAnderson

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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2011, 04:43:54 pm »

would ruin my design, so i'll just build another in a warm climate
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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2011, 07:58:36 pm »

andrewas is right. Magma is more simple.
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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 07:33:54 am »

A well in a dwarven bedroom is like a quern in a magma trap.  They won't use it, and it's quite likely someone will die by accident if they do try to use it.

Extend your pump stack down to the magma and have it heat your dwarven rooms instead, providing water is unnecessary.
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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 08:00:40 am »

Magma beside water is useless.  Magma under water, separated by a single floor tile, will keep the water warm.  You can build a spiral pump stack using a 4x4 grid and place magma under those corner squares, otherwise trying to pump water through a frozen location is nearly impossible.  Frozen waterfalls are also impossible, as they just freeze, and you can't easily suspend magma in midair.

Somewhere in there is the recipe for a cave-in machinegun, by proper misuse of heated aqueducts and un-heated locations.

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Re: water -> ice in above ground structures?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 10:05:54 am »

If you really don't want to waste the effort, you could use DFliquids to fill a tunnel underneath it with magma. It is sorta "Cheatyface"  but I think using it once would not be so bad.
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