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Zrk2

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Re: Earth hour
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2011, 12:12:44 pm »



New avatar? Perhaps. Saved for future use? Definitely.
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Re: Earth hour
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2011, 12:28:53 pm »



New avatar? Perhaps. Saved for future use? Definitely.

I tried to get it in better quality, but I was in a bit of a rush.  8)
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Re: Earth hour
« Reply #92 on: March 30, 2011, 03:31:48 pm »

I already necro a bit too much...

ON TOPIC: The global climate has been cyclical for the entirety of earth's history. The Holocene Warm Period stretched on for 5000-9000 years and was much warmer than anything which has been predicted by modern science, without any interference from humans. As well, we can't predict next weeks weather with any accuracy, let alone climate trends.

I will go as far as saying that if you were to chart the earth's climate, you would have something that looks like waves within waves within waves, and the closer you zoom in, the wavier it get.
So Earth's climate is a Mandelbrot?

That should not surprise you.  Most things are.  When fractals were a new thing, researchers kept getting weirded out because they were finding the mandlebrot set and other fractals everywhere in nature.  Quite a few had religious experiences.
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Leafsnail

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Re: Earth hour
« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2011, 03:42:28 pm »

ON TOPIC: The global climate has been cyclical for the entirety of earth's history. The Holocene Warm Period stretched on for 5000-9000 years and was much warmer than anything which has been predicted by modern science, without any interference from humans. As well, we can't predict next weeks weather with any accuracy, let alone climate trends.
Problem one: it doesn't usually change this quickly.  The halocene changed over periods of thousands of years, not decades.

Problem two: the sea levels around that time were pretty goddamn different from the ones we have now.  If we did return to the sea levels we had then, we'd quite clearly be plunged into chaos.

Problem three: your final sentence shows a pretty basic mistake.
"Weather" and "climate" are two entirely different things.  Day to day weather is harder to predict than an overall trend in climate and temperature ranges.  In the same way we can't predict whether a coin will be heads or tails on its next flip, but we can predict a rough estimate of how many tails we expect if we flip it 100,000 times.

Incidentally, "The earth's climate is cyclical" is a very obvious statement.  We know about that from ice ages and stuff.  It's like saying "Things fall downwards!" and using that as proof that the earth isn't round.
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