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[Urist Imiknorris]

e: Oh God pirating thread. I'm out before someone raises the Jolly Roger - OH NO.

[Realmfighter]

Man, that looks like a cool place.

[Zai]

Hell, at a concert I went to a few months ago, the lead singer/guitarist outright told the crowd to pirate their newest album, on the grounds that "it's awesome and we think everyone should hear it".

What band was that?

[Sir Pseudonymous]

Hell, at a concert I went to a few months ago, the lead singer/guitarist outright told the crowd to pirate their newest album, on the grounds that "it's awesome and we think everyone should hear it".

What band was that?

Streetlight Manifesto. The full quote was something like "Our next song is one we didn't write; it's from our new album 99 Songs of Revolution; if you don't have it, then go on the internet and steal it because it's great and we think everyone should hear it."

Granted, this is the same person who said in an interview about an earlier album (which was a rerecording of an album from a band several of the members (including him) had been in) "Although, truth be told, I don't care if a single record is sold ... Do I think it's worth thirteen dollars? Yes, very much so, but that's my opinion. What other people decide, that's their own opinion. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold."

[Eugenitor]

I'd reply at length, but heavy torrenting tends to drop my other conne

[dragonshardz]

I'd reply at length, but heavy torrenting tends to drop my other conne

Hah, nice.

And wow, what a can of worms I opened. I don't necessarily support Dan Bull, but thanks for sharing your thoughts, people.

I did enjoy the song, though.

[sneakey pete]

I love how everyone seems to think that copyrighting is only music, games and movies.

[dragonshardz]

More info: TorrentFreak Interview with Dan Bull.

[Grakelin]

I usually like to use a Brig of War, myself. It's fast, but still has a lot of guns.

[Eagleon]

I see it as a supply issue. Say we had the ability to grow cars in our backyard. What would happen to the automotive industry? It would disappear overnight, at best shrink to a niche market for people that want customization. Similarly, the only people producing media that will survive this, financially, are people that can supply something you can't copy easily, but which people are willing to buy. Merchandise, for instance, or compelling live performances. It's unfortunate, but it's a natural consequence of technology that will never go away - it's too useful, and too flexible, and there's no way to regulate it without destroying its most useful properties or spending ridiculous amounts of resources far in excess of its financial output. Artists that believe the box can be closed are being willfully oblivious to modern reality. Even people that aren't willing to pirate things are less likely to buy things in this sort of environment. Devaluation - it doesn't feel as good buying something if you know everyone else is getting it for much less.

The better, more realistic solution is to go back to actually doing this stuff for the sake of art, and yes, busking so to speak. Yes, there will be less incredible special effects and CGI in film and games, and fewer books, and even fewer musicians. The stuff we will have, however, will come from truly talented and imaginative people who can't resist spending time in their work, people that will inspire more to follow them. It's a cultural crisis, but not necessarily a negative one if you can reconcile doing something that (*gasp*) isn't profitable.