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I (the DM) get it.

1 (16.7%)

One of you gets it (you guys decide on whom)

1 (16.7%)

One of you gets it (decided by a quiz game or random thing I put together, yeah, it's an important position, and therefore worth it)

1 (16.7%)

An NPC gets it, and all of the players (petty and warrant officers especially) can eventually be elevated to the position

2 (33.3%)

Everyone starts off with a boat of his/her choosing with a crew of his/her choosing (the easy, but really bleh way out)

1 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: October 08, 2010, 04:05:02 pm

[V-Norrec]

it looks like Russia is pretty unanimous to me, I vote we just go with that

[Flintus10]

I can get behind this and russia sounds good to me.

[Char13magne]

I'm afraid you've got that one wrong. It stays A-H until the end of IWW.

Ah. Good to know. (Except the WWI part, I knew that already.)

Heheheh, I must admit, it's actually an epic fail in history on my side. It wasn't A-H yet by the time of Napoleonic Wars, as a quick check on the wikipedia clarifies - it became Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1867.
Duh, I'm hopeless and I take my hat off to you, etc.

Yeah, there were Prussians and Austrians independently fighting Napoleon on the "allies" side. (The "battle of the nations" included both). And, okay, sounds like Russia wins. So now, positions, ranks, and stories (and try to do a tad of research in choosing your MOs (modis operandi(s), aka specialty; like quartermaster, midshipman, master gunner, sailing master, ship's doctor, captain, purser, Bosun, Bosun's mate, carpenter, cooper, chaplain, cabin boy, cook (no, not captain Cook, there is a comma in between the two words), marine, pilot, close combat specialist (prefers boarding actions), nock gun specialist, first mate (aka impromtu drill sergeant/enforcer), lieutenant (versus NCO), powder monkey, boarding officer, top-eye, topsail capable crewman, random generic crewmember completely lacking in useful skills, etc.), I can help in that respect if anyone needs it).

P.S. Sorry about all of the inner parentheses, I do love those parentheses (WITH A WILL).

[Char13magne]

Sorry for the double-post, but here's some info on the Napoleonic-period Russian navy in real life, for those of you guys who are interested.

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Russia was mainly fighting in the Black sea in the pre-Napoleonic period, trying to expand its trade and often being thwarted by the Turks. Their main base of operations was in the Baltics, and, in 1770, they gained control of the Black sea area in one of their most succesful naval battles, the battle of Chesma, with their fleet led by a certain Admiral Spiridov. They then returned their focus onto more local matters, and formed the Danube Military Flotilla with the sole purpose of defending the Danube river estuary, the only practical way into the heart of Russia via sea. For the next 20 years, they fought the Turks over possesion of the Black Sea, a gradual war of attrition which would leave them with a less-than-significant navy up until the Russo-Japanese war, at which time it will be once again, immediately destroyed (notice something about the Russians and their ships, maybe a pattern forming?). In the early 19th century, Russia began rebuilding its fleet, reaching a respectable force of (while ill trained) rather numerous crews and ships. In the black sea, Russia boasted 5 ships of the line and 19 frigates, while the baltic fleet had 23 ships of the line and 130 frigates. In 1802, the Ministry of Naval Military Forces was established (renamed to Naval Ministry in 1815). In 1826, the Russians will build their first armed steamboat, the Izhora (73.6 kW or ~100 horsepower), outfitted with 8 cannons. In 1836, they constructed the first paddle steamer frigate of the Russian Navy, called Bogatyr (displacement – 1340 tons, power – 177 kW (240 horsepower), armament – 28 cannons).

And a list of Russian ships of the period.

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Shtandart 28 ("Штандарт", 1703) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU 1730

Shlissel‘burg-class (7 units)
All built at Olononetskaya Shipyard.
Shlissel‘burg 28/24 ("Шлиссельбург", 1704) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Kronshlot 28/24 ("Кроншлот", 1704) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Peterburg 28/24 ("Петербург", 1704) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Triumf 28/24 ("Триумф", 1704) - Converted to fire-ship 1710
Derpt 28/24 ("Дерпт", 1704) - Converted to fire-ship 1710
Narva 28/24 ("Нарва", 1704) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Fligel‘-de-Fam 28/24 ("Флигель-де-Фам", 1704) - Flagship of vice-admiral Cornelius Cruys at the Kronstadt defence 1705 during the Great Northern War, converted to fire-ship 1710

Mikhail Arkhangel-class (2 units)
Both built at Syass'kaya Shipyard
Mikhail Arkhangel 28 ("Михаил Архангел", 1704) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Ivan-gorod 28 ("Иван-город", 1705) - Reclassified to 28-gun frigate 1710, BU after 1710
Olifant 32 ("Олифант", 1705) - Reclassified to 36-gun frigate 1710, BU 1712
Dumkrakht 32 ("Думкрат", 1707) - Reclassified to 36-gun frigate 1710, BU 1713

Riga-class (4 units)
Riga 50 ("Рига", 1710) - BU 1721
Vyborg 50 ("Выборг", 1710) - Wrecked and burnt to prevent capture 1713
Pernov 50 ("Пернов", 1711) - BU 1721
anonymous 50 (1711) - Wrecked 1712
Poltava 54 ("Полтава", 1712) - BU 1732

Arkhangel Gavriil-class (3 units)
Arkhangel Gavriil 52 ("Гаврил", 1713, A) - BU 1721
Arkhangel Rafail 52 ("Рафаил", 1713, A) - BU 1724
Arkhangel Mikhail 54 ("Архангел Михаил", 1713, A) - BU 1722

Sviataya Ekaterina-class (3 units)
Sviataya Ekaterina 60 ("Святая Екатерина", 1713) - Renamed Vyborg ("Выборг") 1721, converted to praam 1727
Shlissel‘burg 60 ("Шлиссельбург", 1714) - BU after 1736
Narva 60 ("Нарва", 1714) - Lightning 1715 (lost 318 men)

Ingermanland-class (2 units)
Ingermanland 64 ("Ингерманланд", 1715) - Flagship of Russo-Dutch-British-Danish Fleet of rear admiral Pyotr Mikhailov in 1716 during the Great Northern War, BU after 1739
Moskva 64 ("Москва", 1715) - BU after 1732

Uriil-class (4 units)
Uriil 52 ("Уриил", 1715, A) - Sold for BU in Amsterdam 1722
Varakhail 52 ("Варахаил", 1715, A) - BU 1724
Selafail 52 ("Селафаил", 1715, A) - BU 1724
Yagudiil 52 ("Ягудиил", 1715, A) - Sold for BU in Amsterdam 1722
Sviatoi Aleksandr 70/76 ("Святой Александр", 1717) - Flagship of admiral Zakhar Mishukov at Russo-Swedish War (1741–1743) in 1742, BU after 1746
Revel‘ 68 ("Ревель", 1717) - BU 1732
Neptunus 70/78 ("Нептунус", 1718) - BU 1732
Lesnoye 90 ("Лесное", 1718) - Damaged at the storm and BU 1741
Gangut 90/92 ("Гангут", 1719) - BU 1736

Isaak-Viktoriya-class (2 units)
Isaak-Viktoriya 66 ("Исаак-Виктория", 1719) - BU after 1739
Astrakhan‘ 66 ("Астрахань", 1720) - BU 1736

Nord-Adler-class (2 units)
Nord-Adler 80/88 ("Норд-Адлер", 1720) - BU after 1740
Sviatoi Andrei 80/88 ("Святой Андрей", 1721) - BU after 1740
Friedrichstadt 90/96 ("Фридрихштадт", 1720) - BU 1736
Sviatoi Piotr 80/88 ("Святой Пётр", 1720) - BU 1736
Fridemaker 80/88 ("Фридемакер", 1721) - BU 1736
Sviataya Ekaterina 66/70 ("Святая Екатерина", 1721) - BU 1736
Panteleimon-Viktoriya 66 ("Пантелеймон-Виктория", 1721) - BU 1736

Sankt-Mikhail-class (4 units)
All four built at St Petersburg.
Sankt-Mikhail 54 ("Санкт-Михаил", 1723) - BU after 1739
Rafail 54 ("Рафаил", 1724) - BU after 1739
Ne Tron‘ Menia (also Noli me tangere – "Не тронь меня") 54 (1725) - BU after 1739
Riga 54 ("Рига", 1729) - Converted to hospital ship 1746
Derbent 64/66 ("Дербент", 1724) - BU after 1739
Narva 64/66 ("Нарва", 1725) - BU after 1739
Sviataya Natal'ya 66 ("Святая Наталья", 1727) - BU 1739
Piotr I i II 100 ("Пётр I и II", 1727) - Flagship of Russian admiral Thomas Gordon during the Siege of Danzig (1734), BU 1752

Piotr II-class (19 units)
Piotr II 54 ("Пётр II", 1728) - BU after 1739
Vyborg 54 ("Выборг", 1729) - BU after 1739
Novaya Nadezhda 54 ("Новая Надежда", 1730) - BU 1747
Gorod Arkhadgel‘sk 54 ("Город Архангельск", 1735, A) - BU 1749
Severnaya Zvezda 54 ("Северная Звезда", 1735, A) - BU 1749
Neptunus 54 ("Нептунус", 1736, A) - BU after 1750
Azov 54 ("Азов", 1736) - BU 1752
Astrakhan‘ 54 ("Астрахань", 1736) - BU 1752
Sviatoi Andrei 54 ("Святой Андрей", 1737, A) - VU after 1752
Kronshtadt 54 ("Кронштадт", 1738, A) - BU 1755
Sviatoi Panteleimon 54 ("Святой Пантелеймон", 1740) - BU 1756
Sviatoi Isaakii 54 ("Святой Исаакий", 1740, A) - BU 1756
Sviatoi Nikolai 54 ("Святой Николай", 1748, A) - Renamed Sviatoy Nikolay vtotoy ("Святой Николай второй") 1754, BU after 1762
Varakhiil 54 ("Варахиил", 1749, A) - Wrecked 1749
Shlissel‘burg 54 ("Шлиссельбург", 1752, A) - BU 1765
Varakhiil 54 ("Варахиил", 1752, A) - BU 1763
Neptunus 54 ("Нептунус", 1758, A) - Discarded 1771
Gorod Arkhangel‘sk 54 ("Город Архангельск", 1761, A) - BU after 1774
Aziya 54 ("Азия", 1768, A) - Lost in Aegean Sea 1773 (lost 439 men)

Slava Rossii-class (59 units)
Slava Rossii 66 ("Слава России", 1733) - BU 1752
Severnyi Oryol 66 ("Северный Орёл", 1735) - BU 1763
Revel‘ 66 ("Ревель", 1735) - BU 1752
Ingermanland 66 ("Ингерманланд", 1735) - BU 1752
Osnovaniye Blagopoluchiya 66 ("Основание Благополучия", 1736) - BU 1752
Leferm 66 ("Леферм", 1739, A) - BU 1756
Schastiye 66 ("Счастие") (ex-Generalissimus Rossiyskiy ("Генералиссимус Российский") - renamed on slip) (1741, A) - BU 1756
Blagopoluchiye 66 ("Благополучие") (ex-Pravitel'nitsa Rossiyskaya ("Правительница Российская") - renamed on slip) (1741, A) - Converted to harbour lighter 1744, BU 1748
Sviatoi Piotr 66 ("Святой Пётр") (ex-Ioann ("Иоанн")- renamed on slip) (1741) - Flagship of admiral count Nikolai Golovin at Russo-Swedish War (1741–1743) in 1743, BU 1756
Sviataia Ekaterina 66 ("Святая Екатерина", 1742, A) - BU 1756
Fridemaker 66 ("Фридемакер", 1742, A) - BU 1756
Lesnoi 66 ("Лесной", 1743, A) - BU 1759
Poltava 66 ("Полтава", 1743, A) - BU 1756
Arkhangel Rafail 66 ("Архангел Рафаил", 1744, A) - BU 1758
Sviataya Velokomuchenitsa Varvara 66 ("Святая Великомученица Варвара", 1745) - BU 1755
Sviatoi Sergii 66 ("Святой Сергий", 1747, A) - BU 1763
Sviatoi Aleksandr Nevskii 66 ("Святой Александр Невский", 1749) - BU 1763
Ioann Zlatoust 66 ("Иоанн Златоуст", 1740) - Renamed Ioann Zlatoust vtoroy ("Иоанн Златоуст второй") 1751, BU 1759
Arkhangel Gavriil 66 ("Архангел Гавриил", 1749, A) - BU 1763
Arkhangel Uriil 66 ("Архангел Уриил", 1749, A) - BU 1763
Moskva 66 ("Москва", 1750, A) - Wrecked 1758, found by divers 1893
Ingermanland 66 ("Ингерманланд", 1752, A) - BU 1765
Nataliya 66 ("Наталия", 1754, A) - BU 1771
Poltava 66 ("Полтава", 1754, A) - Sank in harbour from leak 1770
Astrakhan 66 ("Астрахань", 1756, A) - Wrecked 1760
Revel‘ 66 ("Ревель", 1756, A) - BU 1771
Rafail 66 ("Рафаил", 1758, A) - BU 1771
anonymous 66 (1758, A) - Wrecked 1758 before she could be named
Moskva 66 ("Москва", 1760, A) - BU 1771
Sviatoi Piotr 66("Святой Пётр", 1760, A) - Burnt 1764
Sviatoi Iakov 66 ("Святой Иаков", 1761, A) - BU 1774
Sviatoi Aleksandr Nevskiy 66 ("Святой Александр Невский", 1762, A) - Burnt 1764
Ne Tron‘ Menia 66 ("Не тронь меня", 1763, A) - Converted to frigate 1772, sold for BU in Livorno 1775
Severnyi Oryol 66 ("Северный Орёл", 1763, A) - Sold for BU in England 1770
Sviatoi Evstafii Plakida 66 ("Святой Евстафий Плакида", 1763) - Was the flagship (2nd flag) and blew up at the Battle of Chesma (1770)
Sviatoi Ianuarii 66 ("Святой Иануарий", 1763) - Sold for BU in Naousa 1775
Saratov 66 ("Саратов", 1765, A) - BU 1786
Tver‘ 66 ("Тверь", 1765, A) - BU after 1776
Triokh Ierarkhov 66 ("Трёх Иерархов", 1766) - Flagship of General-in-Chief count Alexei Orlov at the Battle of Chesma (1770), discarded 1786
Triokh Sviatitelei 66 ("Трёх Святителей", 1766) - Sold for BU in Naousa 1775
Evropa 66 ("Европа", 1768, A) - BU after 1791
Vsevolod 66 ("Всеволод", 1769, A) - Burnt 1779
Rostislav 66 ("Ростислав", 1769, A) - BU 1782
Sviatoi Georgii Pobedonosets 66 ("Святой Георгий Победоносец", 1770) - BU 1780
Graf Orlov 66 ("Граф Орлов", 1770, A) - BU 1791
Pamiat‘ Evstafiya 66 ("Память Евстафия", 1770, A) - BU 1791
Pobeda 66 ("Победа", 1770, A) - BU 1780
Viktor 66 ("Виктор", 1771, A) - BU 1791
Viachelsav 66 ("Вячеслав", 1771, A) - BU after 1784
Dmitrii Donskoi 66 ("Дмитрий Донской", 1771, A) - BU 1791
Mironosits (also Sviatykh Zhion Mironosits — "Мироносиц" or "Святых жён мироносиц") 66 (1771) - BU 1791
Svyatoi Kniaz‘ Vladimir 66 ("Святой Князь Владимир", 1771) - BU after 1791
Aleksandr Nevskii 66 ("Александр Невский", 1772, A) - BU 1784
Boris i Gleb 66 ("Борис и Глеб", 1772, A) - Damaged in collision 1778, BU 1789
Preslava 66 ("Преслава", 1772, A) - BU 1791
Deris‘ 66 ("Дерись", 1772, A) - BU 1791
Ingermanlandiya 66 ("Ингерманландия", 1773, A) - BU 1784
Spiridon 66 ("Спиридон", 1779) - BU 1791
David Selunskii 66 ("Давид Селунский", 1779) - BU after 1786
Imperatritsa Anna 110/114 ("Императрица Анна", 1737) - BU 1752

And those are all the important ones, although there are 149 more which were much smaller, or out of action at the time. Just for you guy's enjoyment, doesn't need to be anything (also, if I may presume to make a suggestion, the steamboat mentioned in the info paragraph, while slightly out of period, is very cool, and well documented!). {Note, they are all seemingly off by about 20-30 years, but most where still in service by the Napoleonic Wars, especially those of Slava Rossii class (frigates), and for the rest, the names at least will be a boon to those of us who would normally have to come up with our own and don't happen to speak fluent Russian .)

Here is also a link to what I find to be a very useful page on steamers, also just intended for interest, it might also be useful in the roll to dodge.

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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31179/31179-h/images/i_148_as.png&imgrefurl=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31179/31179-h/31179-h.htm&usg=__oGasrdB7HwzD4G7lzPX6Cm-qmt8=&h=334&w=598&sz=127&hl=en&start=29&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=_BlRi19nyaU6UM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Darmed%2Bpaddle%2Bsteamer%2Bdeck%2Bplans%26start%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1

And another interesting website, this one for non-steambased vessels (American, but that designation doesn't matter that much for many of them) with a focus on smaller ships and their deckplans (caveat lector, lots of lag on slow computers).

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http://books.google.com/books?id=RzbsxR5Nj4gC&pg=PR12&lpg=PR12&dq=Howard+I.+Chapelle,+American+Small+Sailing+Craft+(New+York:+W.+W.+Norton+%26+Co.,+Inc.,+1951),+pp.+29,+31.&source=bl&ots=hjzBGnAhRT&sig=LWw0qfO8yJ7DSIAssidOAolW5ho&hl=en&ei=WF-rTISgAoGBlAf_v53gCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCgQ6AEwBQ#

So, there's my homework done for a little while. Feel free to submit any comments, suggestions, or critique.

[V-Norrec]

Name:  Alexsey Ivanov
Gender: Male (Women on ships are bad luck and not period correct damnit!)
Specialties:  First Mate, Close Quarters Specialist

The Izhora, would be interesting but I demand more than 8 cannons.  Thus I'm going to have to cast my vote for the 28-gun frigate Kronshlot.  Why, because the name is cool and it has guns, I need no other reason.

[Sneevil]

Name: Gregori Fyodor
Gender:Male
Role: Carpenter

Hmm a Frigate is really a formidable ship. We will probably need an officer for it.
and someone who repairs  the damage is always handy i thought.

[Sheb]

Can we be captain, or is the DM going to play that part? Anyway, I'd like to be in charge of the Marines (or however they were called in Russia). Oh, and make me a sharpshooter rather than a close-combat guy.

Name: Dmitri Karmonov
Gender:Male
Role: Captain/Lieutnant of Marines

Background: Coming from an aristocratic family, Dmitri served his whole life in the Naval Infantry. He is one of the more experienced officer on the ship, being a veteran of the taking of Ismaïl Fortress in 1790. Cool and calculating, he is an expert on landing operations and is himself a very good marksman. However, he tend to be ruthless and harsh with his men.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Name: Karp Gusev
Gender: Male
Role: Quartermaster.
Skills: (If I understand his role correctly) Sailing i.e. steering the ship

Backstory: Karp is not a particularly bright man, but dedicated and loyal.

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Like ox.

When questioned about his past, he never fully answers the question, perfering to point in some direction, and saying that he came from over there. Needless to say, he never points in the same place twice. He's quite strong, strong enough to hold the ship in a straight line in a storm, and is slightly above average height. He has brown hair, and a nose that is too big for his face.

(That should be good enough, right?)

[Sneevil]

ahh sorry you are right i'm translating litrary again.

[Char13magne]

Name: Karp Gusev
Gender: Male
Role: Quartermaster.
Skills: (If I understand his role correctly) Sailing i.e. steering the ship

Backstory: Karp is not a particularly bright man, but dedicated and loyal.

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Like ox.

When questioned about his past, he never fully answers the question, perfering to point in some direction, and saying that he came from over there. Needless to say, he never points in the same place twice. He's quite strong, strong enough to hold the ship in a straight line in a storm, and is slightly above average height. He has brown hair, and a nose that is too big for his face.

(That should be good enough, right?)

Certainly

Oh, and about Sheb's question concerning the captain, what do you guys think? How about a poll to decide?

[Flintus10]

Name: Mikhail Sidorov
Gender: Male
Role: I'll start as a marine sharpshooter (Not sure if they were used by Russia but they were definetly used during the Napoleonic wars) if I can and see where I go.

Backround: Mikhail is quite young but has been aboard ships most of his life starting as a powder monkey. Eventually as he grew older and took on a more advanced role in the crew he proved himself quite adept with a rifle and was soon drafted into the Baltic Fleet's marines. Mikhail worked brilliantly under pressure and so was given the role of marine sharpshooter tasked with trying to take out opposing officer's and captains from the higher points of the ship.

Mikhail has the stereotypical ice cold Russian personality which is perfect for his role as he can keep his focus even in the midst of battle. Mikhail is fiercly patriotic and dreams of going up through the ranks of Russia's naval forces.

[Sheb]

Bump?