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[thvaz]

Thought so. The temples are a neat touch though -- I once made an adventurer just to visit all the temples and see what causes what. Little touches like that are what set this game apart from the other ridiculously complex RTS-Roguelike hybrids.

There are others?

[Arkenstone]

I don't remember changing much if anything, though there might have been something.  What is it about the raws that made you think the list was obsolete?

It's not in the raws, it's in the string dump; this is the list under sphere tokens:

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AGRICULTURE
ANIMALS
ART
BALANCE
BEAUTY
BIRTH
BLIGHT
BOUNDARIES
CAVERNS
CHAOS
CHARITY
CHILDREN
COASTS
CONSOLATION
COURAGE
CRAFTS
CREATION
DANCE
DARKNESS
DAWN
DAY
DEATH
DEFORMITY
DEPRAVITY
DISCIPLINE
DISEASE
DREAMS
DUSK
DUTY
EARTH
FAMILY
FAME
FATE
FERTILITY
FESTIVALS
FIRE
FISH
FISHING
FOOD
FORGIVENESS
FORTRESSES
FREEDOM
GAMBLING
GAMES
GENEROSITY
HAPPINESS
HEALING
HOSPITALITY
HUNTING
INSPIRATION
JEALOUSY
JEWELS
JUSTICE
LABOR
LAKES
LAWS
LIES
LIGHT
LIGHTNING
LONGEVITY
LOVE
LOYALTY
LUCK
LUST
MARRIAGE
MERCY
METALS
MINERALS
MISERY
MIST
MOON
MOUNTAINS
MUCK
MURDER
MUSIC
NATURE
NIGHT
NIGHTMARES
OATHS
OCEANS
ORDER
PAINTING
PEACE
PERSUASION
PLANTS
POETRY
PREGNANCY
RAIN
RAINBOWS
REBIRTH
REVELRY
REVENGE
RIVERS
RULERSHIP
RUMORS
SACRIFICE
SALT
SCHOLARSHIP
SEASONS
SILENCE
SKY
SONG
SPEECH
STARS
STORMS
STRENGTH
SUICIDE
SUN
THRALLDOM
THUNDER
TORTURE
TRAVELERS
TREACHERY
TREES
TRICKERY
TRUTH
TWILIGHT
VALOR
VICTORY
VOLCANOS
WAR
WATER
WEALTH
WEATHER
WIND
WISDOM
WRITING
YOUTH


As you can see, there are a few in there that aren't in the other lists, like strength, rulership and courage.
I suppose this could just mean that they don't have any relations (which would fit with the tests that I've been running); but if so, then some relationships should be added (strength and courage with war and valor, etc.) 

(PS: You misspelled volcanoes)

[sweitx]

Thought so. The temples are a neat touch though -- I once made an adventurer just to visit all the temples and see what causes what. Little touches like that are what set this game apart from the other ridiculously complex RTS-Roguelike hybrids.

"RTS-Roguelike hybrids."
I think you're missing a few other genre.

[Footkerchief]

(PS: You misspelled volcanoes)

Main Entry: vol·ca·no
Pronunciation: \väl-ˈkā-(ˌ)nō, vȯl-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural vol·ca·noes or vol·ca·nos

[Arkenstone]

Main Entry: vol·ca·no
Pronunciation: \väl-ˈkā-(ˌ)nō, vȯl-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural vol·ca·noes or vol·ca·nos

Oh, really? I always thought it was volcanoes, and so does the spellcheck on my browser.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Wait, I'm a little confused. I get how the precludes work, but what about parent/child relationships? Do I understand correctly that a deity/civilization with a child sphere can not have the related parent sphere, and visa versa(a parent can not have any child spheres)? So the God of Lightning could not be the god of Nature can not also be the god of Trees?

[Footkerchief]

Wait, I'm a little confused. I get how the precludes work, but what about parent/child relationships? Do I understand correctly that a deity/civilization with a child sphere can not have the related parent sphere, and visa versa(a parent can not have any child spheres)?

That part is correct...

So the God of Lightning could not be the god of Nature

...but I'm not sure how you got this part.  Lightning isn't a parent or child of nature, or precluded by it, so a deity can have both.  Nature is a parent of trees, though, so those are mutually exclusive.  I believe the purpose of excluding parents/children is to prevent deities from having "redundant" spheres.

[Toady One]

Yeah, some of the spheres have no relations, mostly because I did it all at once and probably just got burned out.  I don't know if there's a suggestion thread for this yet, but I'm open to suggestions on these lists.

And yeah, VOLCANOS[sic] on http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Sphere has been my enemy since the dawn of time.  Dictionaries don't mind volcanos, but volcanoes is more popular on google and spellcheckers.  I don't know the etymology, but it isn't as clear-cut a case as potatoes, say, and I certainly grew up without the e.

[Neonivek]

Well the spheres arn't even done in all likelyness.

Some spheres have yet to be added (Cold/winter/ice/snow as a simple example)

Spheres need to be associated with objects (Abacus to wealth) for god relationships.

So there is plenty of time to really go back to them.

Though I don't want to be Toady when he has to put the spheres in Proper.

[Arkenstone]

Right there; but I think that maybe I might write up a possible new relationships file that Toady could paste in if he likes when he's got the time.  But not right now: it's just not that important!

[Mephansteras]

Eh, write up a suggestions thread for it (or add to one if there is one already). Toady can then add it to his list of bookmarks or whatever and when Spheres get on the list of things to do he'll know where to look.