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Shurikane

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[40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« on: January 25, 2009, 10:22:52 am »

Situation: I drained a small lake, floodgated it, and in time, it filled back up again to full - through rain, I suppose.

A few years later, a battle happened, in which one goblin was flung in said lake.  Problem: he is not in a drowning state, despite being inside a 7/7 body of water.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 10:41:44 am »

Do they actually drown at all when flung into open water? I got the impression 7/7 only matters when there's a ceiling above.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 10:47:06 am »

Do they actually drown at all when flung into open water? I got the impression 7/7 only matters when there's a ceiling above.
Touché

'Globins' swim.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 11:06:44 am »

Do they actually drown at all when flung into open water? I got the impression 7/7 only matters when there's a ceiling above.

If I retract a drawbridge beneath their feet and dunk them into a river, they drown just fine - even if I don't replace the drawbridge.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 11:51:50 am »

Do they actually drown at all when flung into open water? I got the impression 7/7 only matters when there's a ceiling above.

If I retract a drawbridge beneath their feet and dunk them into a river, they drown just fine - even if I don't replace the drawbridge.

It still counts the bridge as a floor, I think.

You can't build a bridge, retract it, and channel under it for example.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 12:14:41 am »

Dump a bunch of goblins in a pool and make sure they don't drown so you can use it to execute nobles! It's like in those spy films where the hero is tied up and suspended above a tank of sharks and slowly lowered down :D

EDIT: Actually, dumping some other hostile critters with [SWIMS_INNATE] in your water moat would be cool. I'd love to fill my moat with elves.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2009, 12:16:12 am by Xonara »
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 06:57:56 am »

if it doesn't drown immediately it can learn to swim.

applies to everything that doesn't already know how to swim, except stuff that dies anyway(magmamen).
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 01:43:36 pm »

Situation: I drained a small lake, floodgated it, and in time, it filled back up again to full - through rain, I suppose.

A few years later, a battle happened, in which one goblin was flung in said lake.  Problem: he is not in a drowning state, despite being inside a 7/7 body of water.

My fortress is built atop a brook. The brook freezes for a couple months each winter. So one winter I dug out the area around the brook, and placed a few caged goblins in the dug out area.

Late winter comes and the brook unfreezes, flooding the area.  By spring the water is 7/7, and the goblins are caged and firmly underwater.

A year later they are still alive.   Next time the brook freezes I'm going to dig back down and link lever to their cages to try releasing them into the 7/7 water from their cages.  If they swim out I will be disappointed.
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 04:02:19 pm »

caged goblins

What part of "cages are pocket universes" did you miss?
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Re: [40d] Goblin cannot drown in re-filled water body.
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 02:33:46 pm »

caged goblins

What part of "cages are pocket universes" did you miss?

That wasn't the point. My point was, I was going to try and release them into the re-flooded area to see what happens.
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