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[Tormy]

Man. Simcity 2000 flashback.

Ahah, yeah Ive played with that game also...
Its isometric view is a bit different:

[nornagon]

You know what we need before even considering isometric or 3d or any kind of major graphical overhaul? We need to figure out whether we want each and every little action and detail displayed on-screen. I mean, could we really animate different colored socks on 200 dwarves?

That's precisely the reason I've done what I've done with my map viewer -- if you keep everything to the ASCII tiles (even in the 3D view), then you totally avoid that problem. It's exactly the same deal we have now with regards to tilesets, except with an added 3D view

I just quickly tried fading to blue instead of black in my map viewer, and it's problematic. For a start, the backgrounds of a great many tiles are black. This means that the fading to blue has little effect on tiles that are blue, and on tiles that have no blue component, quickly renders them invisible. The effect isn't quite as nice as it could be...

I think if there were this 3D component (i.e, the ability to view your map from an oblique perspective quickly and easily) then the ambiguity of symbols would be less of a problem. Any time you'd otherwise be scratching your head, you can just grab and rotate the landscape and check. No problems

[Reasonableman]

Linky to map veiwer pl0x? KTHXBYE

[nornagon]

I've just finally managed to build a windows .exe for it, but it is COMPLETELY untested and likely extremely buggy on windows. Insert the usual disclaimer of responsibility for your computer exploding, deleting all your files, getting blood on your carpet or sleeping with your girlfriend here.

That said: http://nornagon.net/dfviewer.zip

Drag a .fdf-map file onto view.exe to run it.

Use the arrow keys to move around (or middle-click + drag in top-down mode). '.' and ',' will go down and up in the Z direction respectively. Click and drag to get to 3D mode. Scroll wheel to zoom in 3D mode.

[Reasonableman]

That be pretty darn kewl. Check it!

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[nornagon]

Awesome. Good to know it works for you