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[Torak]

Fixed.

Fixed again.

[nornagon]

I updated my little viewer to read maps from the DFMA. This is Charmglen, from Sappho.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still working on the interface to try and make it more intuitive... I'll happily post the code if anyone wants to have a look-see.

[Red Jackard]

armstrong dwarf is best

also in case you didn't know that was from lineage ii, an old crappy korean anime mmo

[Andir]

I updated my little viewer to read maps from the DFMA. This is Charmglen, from Sappho.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still working on the interface to try and make it more intuitive... I'll happily post the code if anyone wants to have a look-see.

Please... I'm curious how you're loading/warping the tiles to make it look like that.  There's a kind of "Mode 7" feel to it.

[nornagon]

I'm using OpenGL to display the tiles. I'm telling my graphics card to magnify/minify the textures (e.g. due to perspective) by doing a 'nearest neighbour' interpolation--that is, rather than taking a weighted average of two adjacent texels on the texture to produce a gradient effect, it just picks the nearest texel available. That way you get the sharp edges that you can see in the screenshot.

My code's getting towards a releasable state. It now opens .fdf-map files from any of the many DFMA compressors available, and displays them in a semi-usable way. All that remains is to sucker somebody into building it on windows... and to test it out a bit more. One issue I'm having at the moment is working out a good way to remove 'sky' tiles, and the 'dot' tiles you see when looking at a lower level in-game. They're sort of redundant when you're looking at the map in 3D :p

[Andir]

I'm using OpenGL to display the tiles. I'm telling my graphics card to magnify/minify the textures (e.g. due to perspective) by doing a 'nearest neighbour' interpolation--that is, rather than taking a weighted average of two adjacent texels on the texture to produce a gradient effect, it just picks the nearest texel available. That way you get the sharp edges that you can see in the screenshot.

My code's getting towards a releasable state. It now opens .fdf-map files from any of the many DFMA compressors available, and displays them in a semi-usable way. All that remains is to sucker somebody into building it on windows... and to test it out a bit more. One issue I'm having at the moment is working out a good way to remove 'sky' tiles, and the 'dot' tiles you see when looking at a lower level in-game. They're sort of redundant when you're looking at the map in 3D :p

I'm curious because I had an idea to test and see if I could get the central view space coordinate somehow and do a mem swipe of the DF Map data in that area in memory to produce an alternate display with some kind of 3D feel to it.  I'm mainly interested in just being able to see multiple Z-levels in real time without having to wait for 3Dwarf's map_extract and loading.

Edit: took me a second to figure out what you're doing.  You're basically looking at the data from the extracts... though any info you have I think will assist me in my experiment.   Seeing as Toady doesn't have any interest in working with others making any kind of interface adjustments, I figured I'd go about it the "hacker" method.

[nornagon]

I'm curious because I had an idea to test and see if I could get the central view space coordinate somehow and do a mem swipe of the DF Map data in that area in memory to produce an alternate display with some kind of 3D feel to it.  I'm mainly interested in just being able to see multiple Z-levels in real time without having to wait for 3Dwarf's map_extract and loading.

Edit: took me a second to figure out what you're doing.  You're basically looking at the data from the extracts... though any info you have I think will assist me in my experiment.   Seeing as Toady doesn't have any interest in working with others making any kind of interface adjustments, I figured I'd go about it the "hacker" method.

Yeah, that'd be neat. Unfortunately I don't know a great deal about memory hacking... but I will be realeasing the source to this when I do make a release. So you'll be able to hack it up to your heart's content

[geggis]

I updated my little viewer to read maps from the DFMA. This is Charmglen, from Sappho.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still working on the interface to try and make it more intuitive... I'll happily post the code if anyone wants to have a look-see.

There's definitely some shape to the landscape with the 'faded depths' applied.

Would you be able to select things on lower z levels? I don't see why not. That would make outdoor navigation really simple especially for selecting the pesky cliff climbing dwarves.

[dreiche2]

Just for the record, quite a while ago (I think even before the introduction of the z-coordinate), there was a discussion about possibly displaying lower levels darkened. I think Toady meant that it could lead to some confusion with things that simply are more darker themselves.

I think we would have to think of a way of how to make the distinction between levels as clear as possible... I guess one would have to see your version in game to get a feeling for it.

[Omega2]

That could happen if the default fading color was black (obsidian stuff would be really hard to see), but I think that if the filter was a lighter, unusual color (purple, maybe?), it wouldn't be so bad. Since the background color and foreground character of a tile would both be filtered the same, it would just show up as faded as everything else in that layer. Might make it a bit more difficult to see, but just being able to see the terrain shapes and notice those little g's a couple levels down would do wonders to situational awareness.

There's a bit of trial and error to finding the right color and fading levels, but I believe this concept's got great potential. 

[Tormy]

Oh, look what Ive found. Something like this would be perfect in DF regarding isometric view.

[Nukeitall]

Man. Simcity 2000 flashback.

[Reasonableman]

You know what we need before even considering isometric or 3d or any kind of major graphical overhaul? We need to figure out whether we want each and every little action and detail displayed on-screen. I mean, could we really animate different colored socks on 200 dwarves?

[Davion]

You know what we need before even considering isometric or 3d or any kind of major graphical overhaul? We need to figure out whether we want each and every little action and detail displayed on-screen. I mean, could we really animate different colored socks on 200 dwarves?

It'd be an artists nightmare if everything was graphically represented.

[TheSpaceMan]

i would like zoomability as well as maybe suport for more textures over time. But I would love to keep it abstract, if it would get to detailed I would put more work into the Abstaract Code Fortress Mod.