Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?  (Read 771 times)

The Big D

  • Bay Watcher
  • Likes bears for their fuzzy-wuzzyness
    • View Profile
Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« on: November 01, 2016, 05:38:32 am »

I've got a GCS caged and a Web shooter FB in the caverns outside my stairwell, if I web the cage traps with my GCS will that FB be captured?
Logged
I just have this terrible mental picture of this beet-looking thing bursting out of someone's stomach and being like "Neeeeed phosphaaaaates"
If it's magma resistant, mod it so it's not!

The Big D

  • Bay Watcher
  • Likes bears for their fuzzy-wuzzyness
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 06:19:12 am »

Judging by the fact that i've just lost 74 dwarves due to a lack of armour i'd say not
Logged
I just have this terrible mental picture of this beet-looking thing bursting out of someone's stomach and being like "Neeeeed phosphaaaaates"
If it's magma resistant, mod it so it's not!

RocheLimit

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 06:49:55 am »

I've got a GCS caged and a Web shooter FB in the caverns outside my stairwell, if I web the cage traps with my GCS will that FB be captured?

Judging by the fact that i've just lost 74 dwarves due to a lack of armour i'd say not

You are correct.  As far as I know, there is no way to cage a webbing forgotten beast, titan, or clown; they are immune to webs and cannot be knocked unconscious.  Also, don't forget forgotten beasts and titans in the form of spiders (but not tarantulas) can also shoot web and are therefore immune to web as well.

You can, however, trap them in small hallways capped with drawbridges.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Melting Sky

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 07:22:56 am »

Judging by the fact that i've just lost 74 dwarves due to a lack of armour i'd say not

Ouch, a trap, even a webbed one, does not a replacement for the military make. Webbers are quite dangerous even for well trained and armored dwarves.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2016, 07:37:03 am by Melting Sky »
Logged

FantasticDorf

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 11:55:03 am »

If the FB spits web itself, it cannot be caught in webbed traps, otherwise it will work. If a simple and cheap webbed trap can avoid spending dwarven manpower then its worth every penny because you can use the forgotten beast from there on however you like (within the means of pitting it)

I highly suggest making a GCS silk farm, here is a guide from the wiki http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Silk_farming

GCS spit out their webs, so put the desired cages as loose objects in the line of fire, the GCS has to be restricted but not restrained by a chain, it should also be profitable for the time and minimal input you need for it for expensive GCS string too, which is valued higher than yarn and regular cave spider silk.

Finally, forgotten beast web might yet be more profitable if you can find the resources and engineering to extract it, the properties of the web may be different such as fire resistance making it extra valuable.
Logged

gchristopher

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2016, 12:43:11 pm »

Ouch, a trap, even a webbed one, does not a replacement for the military make.
Bah. You just didn't use enough minecarts.


Note that web-slinging clowns can ignore webbed traps the same as web-slinging FB's.
Logged

gestahl

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Do Web-slinger FB's trigger GCS webbed cage traps?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2016, 05:43:04 pm »

Finally, forgotten beast web might yet be more profitable if you can find the resources and engineering to extract it, the properties of the web may be different such as fire resistance making it extra valuable.
There's no extra dwarfbucks involved, but the properties do carry over. And besides shouldn't we remember these poor forgotten beasts with monumental heaps of socks?
Logged
Cultural assimilation through conquest.
Sure, got a few unburied corpses lying around