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[anomaly]

I've been playing for years and have never had a problem keeping a fort fed, and wasn't having a problem keeping my newest 42.03 fortress fed either, but once I set up a tavern things went south quickly.  planters that are assigned the plant seed labor appeared to plant a single seed before going to the tavern or temple to screw off for the rest of the season. (even though the plots were nearly empty and stockpiles of hundreds of seeds were directly adjacent to the plots)  A total of about 5 or 6 seeds were being planted every season.  After I saw the problem I doubled the number of planters and turned off all other labors for them (including hauling and feeding/watering/assisting patients) but it didn't seem to make any difference.

I'd almost call it a bug since I didn't notice the same issue with workshop related labors.  Sure, a dwarf would go reside in his cups and/or go dancing for a while, but when he went and performed a workshop labor, he did everything that was queued up before he'd go back to partying, so substantial chunks of orders were getting done.

I'm sure I could get farm production going again with burrows, but I would rather not, because you know, I don't want them to miss out on the fun and merriment.  Taverns are a big reason why I am getting back into DF at the 42.xx version and I want to see them in their full glory.

[therahedwig]

Check the personalities of your dwarves. I believe dwarves that aren't fond of merriment(that is partying), will avoid taverning too much. Unfortunately, dwarves are party animals entity wise.

[Bouchart]

Maybe this is something specific to farming.  My one herbalist brings in a constant flow of goodies without any problems.

[anomaly]

Maybe this is something specific to farming.  My one herbalist brings in a constant flow of goodies without any problems.

Yeah, I mean, if you just watch them, you can see they get a period of time between plantings that gives them time to decide what to do.  They'll start to head to the meeting hall for a few steps before they are reminded they have a plot to farm, at which time they'll go back and do their job.  With most labors (mining for instance, and plant gathering, I'd assume) they go directly to each individual task until they get tired/hungry/thirsty without interruptions.  With the addition of the tavern and temple, it gives them another option that is quite time consuming.

[Naryar]

You need better growers, and not an army of unskilled peasants.

[anomaly]

You need better growers, and not an army of unskilled peasants.

instead of blindly offering input you could have asked me for more details about my current setup.  before I added the tavern I had only 2 growers, both were skilled (at least proficient, although I don't know what their skill is off the top of my head and I can't check at the moment), and one of them had only growing enabled.  they were having no issues keeping the fortress fed and the booze flowing.  after the tavern was enabled, they simply stopped consistently planting things, and the situation didn't change much after I added more growers.

if anything, using an army of unskilled growers would probably solve the problem, actually, but it's not a method that I like to use.

[SaD-82]

If you aren't against micromanaging your dwarves, you could burrow-cycle them.
Season 1: Urist A and B
Season 2: Urist C and D
...
Therefore all of your idle farmers would get the opportunity to socialize and do other work while the farmers belonging to their season would care for your plants.

This would only make sense if your problem won't vanish otherwise.

[aelystur]

check the colour which it says they are participating at the tavern. it may be due to prolonged period without that need being met. pink means its an intense need that must be met. i found that when i set up my taven, and temple the majority of my dwarves buggered off to meet these neglected needs. but after a while it settled back down into a rhythm. i always have more than 2 planters. usually about 6. i like to build up a stockpile of pigtails for emergency clothing replacement, so have always had extra farmers. once they had thier initial fill of the tavern or temple, my farmers were back into swing, and i didnt have any troubles building supplies back up. i do however import raw food ingredients for variety. the majority of my food is still unbrewed plump helmets and quarry bush leaf roasts

[anomaly]

the problem seems to be mostly resolved by simply removing barrels from the seed stockpile.  there was one megabarrel that had every seed in it and forcing every hauling job to be channeled through that barrel slowed down farm production.

[Montieth]

I keep seed stockpiles next to the farms. This increases the production rate. I also place an output stockpile next to the farms as well so the harvesters don't have far to go to drop off the stack of plump helmets. 4 harvesters for 100 dwarves and they keep my fort constantly supplied with underground vegetables.

[anomaly]

yeah, I do all of those things on a regular basis.  I knew it wouldn't be anything obvious, because I've already done everything obvious.  Removing barrels from seed stockpiles was not very obvious, but it did the trick.

[Iamblichos]

Seed stockpiles are the key to either very productive or very UNproductive farms.  When in doubt, start there    Good to see you found the issue.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

the problem seems to be mostly resolved by simply removing barrels from the seed stockpile.  there was one megabarrel that had every seed in it and forcing every hauling job to be channeled through that barrel slowed down farm production.

So a new problem turns out to be, in fact, a problem dating from 0.40.X. I am at least relieved that this release seems to be stable now. Well, stabler than before.

[milo christiansen]

40.x? That problem dates from at least 34.11!

[anomaly]

to be more specific this is an old problem that has manifested in a new way.  (apparently) related to the lye bucket fix, dwarves now toss their seeds and powders in barrels rather than keeping them in bags.  storing milled flour and sugar this way results in planepacked-esque lavish roasts with dozens of ingredients.  storing dye in this way renders it completely unusable, and storing seeds in this way renders the seeds to be perpetually locked up in hauling jobs.  the workaround is to restrict barrels at your powder/seed stockpiles.

it appears as though this issue is already on the bug tracker so that's all there is to it, really.

I wish I was at my DF computer, I have a screenshot of a dwarven wine roast that was worth around 90000 dbx, made with 3x dwarven wine and about a dozen various dwarven sugar/flour ingredients.  that was an accident, and if i wanted to make something truly stupid i'm sure I could make it much larger.