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DisgruntledPeasant

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Kobold Fortress
« on: August 06, 2012, 01:52:17 pm »

I modded in Kobolds as a playable race with a few tweaks, I had to make them a bit larger since they couldnt pick up pickaxes or battleaxes for mining/woodcutting (anyone know a way around that? i prefer kobolds as little guys)  and my first test fortress as them just fell.

The only two survivors were:  a kitten that was being repeatedly bashed into a wall by a salt Clown that had managed to rip off one of the Clown’s arms before being rendered unconscious (holy fuck!) and was not injured at all besides one head wound and lots of bruises, and a baby that was in the corner of the same room that was for some reason being ignored, checking legends after abandoning the fortress, it appears the baby managed to escape the carnage, somehow.

Now, what I want is suggestions for my next Kobold fortress, and how I should mod the kobolds since currently they behave exactly like dwarves albeit slightly smaller and without the alcohol dependency, and I gave them a little natural skill in sneaking which had the unusual side-effect of causing all the children* to pick up bows and massacre wildlife, ignoring any commands to stop.

I don’t want to be 'too' true to current kobolds, since hiding in a cave cowering sounds kinda dull,  I’d like to play a more civilised** race of kobolds.
My current idea is to embark upon a road, build a trade depot on that road and raid every caravan that comes by (pretending that its some kind of camp site for weary travellers, rather than traders coming to visit me). The fortress itself will be hidden from view somehow

*Having multiple litters as common = LOTS of little kobold pups.
**Civilised in the same loose sense that Dwarves are civilised.

(oh, and thanks to deebus/Corai for making me love Kobolds!)
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 02:03:42 pm »

Just reduce the size of picks and axes in item_weapon or create new items with [SKILL:AXE] and [SKILL:MINING]. Perhaps even mod in something like spoons with both tags. For some reason spoons suit kobolds ;)

Oh, one more thing: I sense Corai lurking around somewhere in here.

Edit: Some of these tokens might make your kobold civilizations more interesting. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Entity_token
Perhaps even change dwarves into a more interesting race so they can cause you some annoyance. Perhaps babysnatching and item thiefing? (Though why would a dwarf steal kobold babies?)
By the way, do fortress kobolds still need to gnaw bones to live like their world gen versions?
« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 02:21:34 pm by Scruffy »
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 02:32:03 pm »

Just reduce the size of picks and axes in item_weapon or create new items with [SKILL:AXE] and [SKILL:MINING]. Perhaps even mod in something like spoons with both tags. For some reason spoons suit kobolds ;)

Oh, one more thing: I sense Corai lurking around somewhere in here.

Edit: Some of these tokens might make your kobold civilizations more interesting. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Entity_token
Perhaps even change dwarves into a more interesting race so they can cause you some annoyance. Perhaps babysnatching and item thiefing? (Though why would a dwarf steal kobold babies?)
By the way, do fortress kobolds still need to gnaw bones to live like their world gen versions?

thanks for the tip! i've made pickaxes and training axes have a smaller requirement in size so kobolds can use them, and i've changed up what item kobolds can produce   (their military is going to be spears, large daggers and bows mostly,  with maces and scimitars beings their more exotic two-handed weapons).

I removed their bone-eating ways since that seemed a bit unpractical in fortress mode, i guess i could test out how that works though.  and I guess a dwarf might want a kobold child for their zoo since there seems to be some kind of consensus here that kobolds are cute...  though they will end up being an enemy anyway since I intend to steal from every caravan they send my way.

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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 02:33:35 pm »

Do your kolbolds lay eggs? If not something is horribly wrong.
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 03:19:46 pm »

Do your kolbolds lay eggs? If not something is horribly wrong.

I prefer Kobolds of the canine variety, rather than the draconic/lizardy things. Dogs laying eggs is just weird.  (also hatching eggs is...quirky at best).
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012, 04:01:48 pm »

Aww, but that would be a fun new mechanic to mod in D:
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012, 05:59:55 pm »

You want Kobold City mod.
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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 06:03:31 pm »

Oh, one more thing: I sense Corai lurking around somewhere in here.

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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 06:21:50 pm »

there is a mod called kobold camp somewhere .

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Re: Kobold Fortress
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 07:18:19 am »

Now, what I want is suggestions for my next Kobold fortress, and how I should mod the kobolds since currently they behave exactly like dwarves albeit slightly smaller and without the alcohol dependency, and I gave them a little natural skill in sneaking which had the unusual side-effect of causing all the children* to pick up bows and massacre wildlife, ignoring any commands to stop.
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