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[jocan2003]

Yeah last I heard was 4Q 2012. Hoping for Nov-Dec then.

That's awful wishful thinking considering they've only really posted a few small mockups. Q3 2013 might be a better estimate if the current website is any indicator.

That...

[bombzero]

Yeah last I heard was 4Q 2012. Hoping for Nov-Dec then.

That's awful wishful thinking considering they've only really posted a few small mockups. Q3 2013 might be a better estimate if the current website is any indicator.

Actually there has been a water demo, a lighting demo, a forest biome generation demo, the Devs have mentioned multiple times that they have mostly all of the "engine" finished and are just adding content at this point... so it's not really too wishful at this point, but more just logical.

speaking of which, the "main site" is terribly outdated really, you have to look on the forums, twitter, and even the IRC channel if you want up to date info.

[Johnfalcon99977]

Yeah last I heard was 4Q 2012. Hoping for Nov-Dec then.

That's awful wishful thinking considering they've only really posted a few small mockups. Q3 2013 might be a better estimate if the current website is any indicator.

I wouldn't call this a small mock-up...

Edit: Here's my favorite thing from the Feature list:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Drinking lava is fatal.

[Frumple]

No... that'd be a(n unofficial, largely unconfirmed, mostly unsubstantiated in the pics-or-it-didn't-happen sense) feature list. The mock-up bit was referring to the screenshots and various critter etc. sprites. The videos say quite a lot, but who knows what level of completeness stuff is at, currently.

Later this year would be nice. "When it's actually done" would be better

If the two happen to coincide, well. Happeh 2012, eh wot.

[BigD145]

Yeah last I heard was 4Q 2012. Hoping for Nov-Dec then.

That's awful wishful thinking considering they've only really posted a few small mockups. Q3 2013 might be a better estimate if the current website is any indicator.

I wouldn't call this a small mock-up...

Edit: Here's my favorite thing from the Feature list:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Drinking lava is fatal.

The worst thing in that list:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Creepers

This game does not need to piggyback on any other game. There is no reason.

[Mullet Master]

No... that'd be a(n unofficial, largely unconfirmed, mostly unsubstantiated in the pics-or-it-didn't-happen sense) feature list. The mock-up bit was referring to the screenshots and various critter etc. sprites. The videos say quite a lot, but who knows what level of completeness stuff is at, currently.

Later this year would be nice. "When it's actually done" would be better

If the two happen to coincide, well. Happeh 2012, eh wot.

Yeah, largely unconfirmed is a good way of putting it.

Remember, Duke Nukem Forever had gameplay videos while it was still part of 3D Realms, in the mid 2000s...

[Johnfalcon99977]

Looks like they posted something on Dungeon generation. Discuss.

[Levi]

Looks like they posted something on Dungeon generation. Discuss.

Interesting.  I wonder if it'll feel a little repetitive after a while though.   (I say even though I can't think of a single cool way to make it less repetitive)

[Neonivek]

Looks like they posted something on Dungeon generation. Discuss.

Interesting.  I wonder if it'll feel a little repetitive after a while though.   (I say even though I can't think of a single cool way to make it less repetitive)

Well often ways to make it less "repetitive" would be to allow more variety within the set patterns.

But given the game... my vote is that isn't going to happen.

[bombzero]

From the sounds of it it's going to be stitching together large collections of "rooms" to make bigger dungeons, so I doubt it would get boring very fast.

[Frumple]

Seems to be roughly what spelunky does, perhaps a lil'more sophisticated. Which... I'd call it boding well, so far as avoiding repetition is concerned.

Well often ways to make it less "repetitive" would be to allow more variety within the set patterns.

But given the game... my vote is that isn't going to happen.

Post, at least, did mention the generator's going to have the potential option of swapping around what goes where, at least occasionally. So it seems, at least, like it allows a good chunk of variety within the overall pattern, since the engine can swap around certain set pieces somewhat freely. At least conceptually, according to the blog post. Who knows how it works in practice

Interesting thing to me is that it looks like it'd be possible to create new rooms and such with flipping paint (the program, mind.), since the generator sounds like it's just parsing a specifically colored image. If adding that sort of material is as simple as making a little pixel stamp thing, that may be a pretty serious boon to ease of modding. Also could see stuff like adding in the mona lisa or whatev', by recoloring the thing. As a dungeon room.

[Neonivek]

Slunky at least got away with it by having the game be relatively short and it having a very large skill factor.

Given Starbound's parent. It will be a very long game with a minimal skill factor.

[alexandertnt]

Well often ways to make it less "repetitive" would be to allow more variety within the set patterns.

But given the game... my vote is that isn't going to happen.

That is much harder than it sounds. The generator runs the risk of generating unpassable dungeons, or generating what is just random boring tubes etc. Interesting, structured random on a computer is a hard thing to accomplish in a reasonably controlled way.

[Neonivek]

Well often ways to make it less "repetitive" would be to allow more variety within the set patterns.

But given the game... my vote is that isn't going to happen.

That is much harder than it sounds. The generator runs the risk of generating unpassable dungeons, or generating what is just random boring tubes etc. Interesting, structured random on a computer is a hard thing to accomplish in a reasonably controlled way.

Pathing solves that

[alexandertnt]

Pathing solves that

Pathing can help with detecting impassable parts of dungeons, but what do you do when it has found a part that is unpassable? Regenerating the dungeon runs the risk of taking a very long time to generate a passable dungeon. Shifting that part of the dungeon around results in the dungeon looking like it has been "patched" up at random places. Regenerating that part of the dungeon can have an out-of-place look etc.