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Babylon

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Troll like creatures
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:19:05 pm »

So I want to mod in a type of pet creature that behaves similarly to trolls, that is they can learn, they are cheap for the civ that they are domesticated by and they tend to come along on sieges.  I looked at the troll creature entry and the entity entry for goblins and couldn't find anything to tell me what lets Goblins bring trolls on their sieges.  can anyone help?
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 12:26:50 pm »

It's a combination of the [SLOW_LEARNER] tag along with the fact that goblins use evil animals and that they share biomes with trolls. All in all pet usage is a fairly hard thing to control because it is based off of several factors.
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 06:42:18 pm »

cant you just add the [COMMON_DOMESTIC] tag to the raw?
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 06:45:24 pm »

Yes that will enable access to the creatures. However it does not make them bring them with them on sieges, nor does it necessarily allow them to have access to them in the first place (differing biomes for example).
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 07:16:41 pm »

You can definetly use the biome:underground_chasm in combination with: use_cave_animals for your race. This way you can limit the use of your pets better. And I can testify that pet controling is damn hard.
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 07:55:13 pm »

You can definetly use the biome:underground_chasm in combination with: use_cave_animals for your race. This way you can limit the use of your pets better. And I can testify that pet controling is damn hard.
Yeah..I sometimes wish pets worked like weapon definitons in an entity.
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 12:31:50 am »

or the oft grumbled about variations for domestics...

maybe one day we'll have things like: 'cavern domestic', 'amphibious domestic', 'flying domestic', 'good domestic', 'savage domestic' (which just sounds like an oxymoron)

i'd absolutely love to have options like those to help limit who gets access to what

as is, currently, setting your troll-like race to [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:2] as their biome and giving them [PET] and then giving dwarves [USE_CAVE_ANIMALS] in their entity file will (usually) allow them to bring the animals on embark. just remember, give them a pet value or they'll show up with an embark cost of 1, which is kinda cheaty...

and realize this means the goblins will prob'ly wind up with them, too

if that winds up not being enough, adding [USE_ANY_PET_RACE] to the dwarf entity file will definitely make them show up...but will also add tons upon tons of other animals for dwarves to use. basically, anything that doesn't have the [GOOD] or [EVIL] tags that lives in the biomes your dwarven civ lives in during worldgen
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 12:35:33 am »

What astianax said, but DO NOT use use_any_pet_race. Instead add the pet tag to them. anypetrace just allows pet_exotics.

If you dont want your dwarves to have them, and only an evil invader race, give them the EVIL tag as well, same as trolls. this way your dwarves dont use them, but the evil race will. (if they have the correct tag in the entity file, of course)
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Re: Troll like creatures
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 06:36:09 am »

Don't forget:

   [SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:25:180000:VOCALIZATION:problem?:looks trollfaced:u mad bro?]

Oh wait, different kind of troll.
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