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Author Topic: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test  (Read 12567 times)

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2012, 05:51:01 pm »

No, actually, I need to take another picture with some coins.  This is zoomed in pretty tight, the bracelet is only 1/2" wide, about 7 1/2" long.  It may be an issue though, as it's raining and my camera doesn't like to zoom in during low light, and I'd hate to get a wet photo.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2012, 05:54:42 pm »

Oh right  :P nice bracelet though. If I ever do buy jewelry for anyone, i'll definitely come to a fellow bay12er first  ;D
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2012, 06:40:37 pm »

That axe looks great!  Like it was forged by hand.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2012, 06:48:21 pm »

What size rings are those? I wanna know what classifies as 'micromaille'.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2012, 06:52:44 pm »

Bracelet's half an inch wide, I guess the rings are about a third of that size in diametre.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2012, 06:53:46 pm »

The measurements I'm looking for specifically are the inner diameter (i.e. width of the hole in the middle of the ring) and the wire gauge (how thick the actual metal is)
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #96 on: February 04, 2012, 06:55:30 pm »

From the looks of it, the inner diametre's six time as wide as the gauge.

Have fun mathing that.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #97 on: February 04, 2012, 06:57:27 pm »

Not nearly; you don't get European 4-in-1 nearly that tight with an AR of 6. I'm guessing it'd be about 2.5 or 3 times wider.

okay, so half an inch is equal to 3xID + 6Xwirethickness, and ID is 3Xwire thickness, so half an inch = 15 wirethicknesses, giving a wire thickness of about 1/32 an inch, or about 8mm, which would be 20g-ish SWG.

I had fun mathsing that.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #98 on: February 04, 2012, 07:02:40 pm »

I never saw 'Math', what was that film about again?
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #99 on: February 04, 2012, 07:20:27 pm »

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2012, 07:29:11 pm »

"Micromail" isn't specific, but I can't use my regular pliers on these, I need chain-nose pliers to work the rings, and that's good enough definition for me.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #101 on: February 05, 2012, 01:14:28 am »

I just saw a documentary on sharks vs chainmail last night. Chainmail won against a frenzied shark, leaving only bruises after a rough attack.

If the axe doesn't break it, I wonder what actually would break it in melee. You said somewhere earlier that arrows could pierce mail.. could you possibly like jab a knife in it, twist it, etc to get through chainmail?
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #102 on: February 05, 2012, 01:28:27 am »

I just saw a documentary on sharks vs chainmail last night. Chainmail won against a frenzied shark, leaving only bruises after a rough attack.

I've seen Chainmail used regularly by shark divers. Works wonders against most sharks that swimmers might encounter.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2012, 01:54:06 am »

Modern shark-proof chainmail is more of a mesh than traditional chainmail, it's very fine, tiny rings and super-strong alloys.  At that point it becomes "metal cloth" instead of "a collection of rings".

Conventional chainmail is vulnerable to thrust or piercing moves, particularly arrows and spears, and to a lesser extent swords and knives.  Solidly welded steel mail will hold up against a mugger's knife, though you might still get cut by the point that manages to pass through the ring, no worse than a cat scratch though.  Historically accurate riveted steel or iron mail wouldn't hold up to a powerful sword thrust and definitely wouldn't against a lance or arrow.

Chainmail's strength is the chain portion.  Stress is distributed over multiple rings, it utilize good old PSI, spreading a blow over a wider area to absorb the impact.  Piercing attacks will completely ignore chainmail's strength and reduce it to a very small conflict.  1 axe vs 1,500 rings is a tough fight.  1 arrow vs 5 rings is rather lopsided.

Coincidentally, I've heard of weapons that resemble ice picks, used to stab in between the rings and ignore the armor completely simply by slipping through the gaps.  There's also an Indian thrusting knife that was designed purely to penetrate chainmail.  It's wielded similar to brass knuckled, so you pretty much punch the enemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katara_%28dagger%29

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2012, 02:51:55 am »

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