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[Geen]

A MMO version of the old Car Wars tabletop?

NOSTALGIA ATTACK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Seriously, I want this NOW.

[Roboboy33]

I want to make a car with sqaure wheels. Why? Because I can. And it will be awesome.

[Bloxace]

I want to make a car with sqaure wheels. Why? Because I can. And it will be awesome.

I hope you have good suspension 
Anyway, drills for boring into larger vehicles.
Y'know, in case one faction want's to make a 50-man battleship.

[Pillow_Killer]

Unforunate this doesnt exists and probably never will.

[Virex]

Unforunate this doesnt exists and probably never will.

Any reason we can't make it a reality?

[Knight of Fools]

Any reason we can't make it a reality?

1) Time.

2) Money.

3) People to do the grunt work.


I am working on a programming degree, but I've got a long ways to get that. I've got a lot of pet project games that I'm planning on working on once I've figured out the difference between my 1's and 0's, but a game of this caliber would require a fair amount of resources and a good understanding of several different systems. You're mingling programming, 3D design, and UI in ways that aren't commonly done in popular games.

Of course, I'm thinking of highly in-depth customization and such. If I could imagine things and have them instantly come true, you'd be able to melt down the wall of a bunker to make a weapon by choosing its barrel length, caliber of its ammunition, the way the ammunition is introduced to the chamber (Bullpup, forward of handle, inside of handle, side-loading, manual insertion, etc), the type of handle, the butt, and even the size and positioning of the three swords you stuck on the front end of it. And then you'd be able to mount the gun on the front of a flying car you made from robots you've killed, and pull it off to use when you crash land in the enemy's floating fortress, only to discover that they've got 12 giant mech units with guns ten times as large as yours. They throw you in the brig, and you start fashioning a shank from the iron bars of your prison, using magic to forge your weapon in the dead of night...


It doesn't have to go that far, but irregardless, not everyone has the kind of programming expertise to do something like that.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

A MMO version of the old Car Wars tabletop?

NOSTALGIA ATTACK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Seriously, I want this NOW.

This. But he's asking for something more.

[Deadmeat1471]

I know this might be a stupid idea, but it is on the DF forum, so here goes.


Why not forgo the graphics, the source engine crap the UI and make a Ascii car builder?

I'm sure this would be infinitely easier though still difficult and time consuming. But still, design cars, parts of an engine, stick engine in car, rocket, plane, cylinder with no controls.

I'd love such a game.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Spoiler: Okay, if it's Car Wars or some other post-apoc setting, here's how I would do it: (click to show/hide)

1. Procgen terrain like Rage
1a. Contiguous overworld / interior like Dungeon Siege
1b. Players can build structures anywhere. Destroying structural materials is DIFFICULT without lots of explosives or powerful vehicle weapons, and doing that will bring the law down on your head.

2. Travel on foot as an FPS with optional third-person view so you can look at your ass all day
2a. Set relationships to other players like in Haven & Hearth
2b. Standard Car Wars skills and personal equipment
2c. Add Shadowrun cyberware, because it's awesome and it might let you survive a single hit from a vehicular weapon

3. Enter vehicles as in Battlefield 1942 (multiple vehicle positions so one driver and multiple gunners and passengers, but you can also just walk around on big vehicles)
3a. Vehicles are lockable, to enter someone else's vehicle you need to be a Buddy or higher relationship OR pick the lock on an empty vehicle (beware anti-theft devices!)
3b. To actually drive a vehicle you must have Best Mate or higher relationship OR break in an unoccupied vehicle
3c. Anti-theft devices on a vehicle are deadly. If the vehicle has an anti-theft device you're pretty much screwed. That's what you get for trying to steal someone's car. The only reason someone might not have an anti-theft device is that it takes up space and weight in the car that could otherwise be used for armor / components / weapons.

4. Item construction from scrap and parts
4b. Build your vehicle using one of the standard frames or design your own frame with the offline tool and have the server validate it. Other people can get a copy of your design if you give it to them on a chip or else if they capture your vehicle and analyze it.
4c. Vehicle designs include Spaces, which determine how much stuff you can fit into your vehicle. This includes crew, weapons, engine / power plant, gas tank / battery, all kinds of fun gizmos, etc.
4d. Vehicles' engines are powered by ethanol and occasional stores of gasoline; vehicle power plants are powered by electricity stored in batteries. You can get solar cells for your car but it won't keep you running continuously and it sure won't be enough to power a bunch of vehicular gizmos and a big laser on your hood.

5. Building blocks for structures come from lots of raw materials mined up using excavator vehicles and processed in building supply facilities.
5a. Buildings have Spaces too for things like toilets and lunch counters and machine shops and stuff.
5b. The law in an area is based on NPCs in vehicles. They are paid for by the local residents of the area in taxes. The tax base can also be used to build things if residents vote to disburse funds to a player to do it. A whole City Hall voting system. The law is also represented by local residents who have radios tuned to the police band, which is where you report crimes. Finally you can set up auto-turrets to target miscreants but these are expensive, they only blast people they see committing specific crimes which you have to toggle, and it's entirely possible you could get blasted by your own turrets if you accidentally do that stuff yourself.
5c. People want buildings and towns because of the revenue from travelers (repairs, trade in goods, refueling) and safety from raiders.

6. The Arena can be set up if there is enough civilization nearby (enough services offered and enough residents).
6a. As a resident, an Arena is good because it brings in travelers who want to compete. These travelers will inevitably need more ammo, repairs, fuel, and probably buy stuff with their winnings. On the other hand, residents pay for arena upkeep. Depending on the quality of the arena duels, you may be able to fill enough seats to actually make money on this, which enriches the town's tax base instead of drinking it all up.
6b. As a traveler, an Arena is good because you get to battle other players and NPCs in duels and possibly win. Heck, of course you'll win! There's a hefty cash prize in it for you for each win. Arena duels are also worth Reputation, which gives you a discount on goods and services (which is paid for by the dividends of fame and doesn't come out of the player shopkeeper's wallet). On the other hand, you do have to pay an entrance fee of about 1/10 the potential prize.

7. The Wilderness holds lots of mutants, deranged pioneers and holdouts, biker gangs, smugglers, etc. These will attack you if you travel through. You do get salvage though.

8. There are jobs offered through various organizations. Shipping, smuggling, espionage, etc.

[Matz05]

  (quietly drools)

...I've wanted something like this for years. I'm not sure if current 3D engines could handle too much, but maybe...
3D, 2D, whatever. I just want something where I can kill people through sheer force of INVENTION.

I agree that a Steampunk setting/asthetic would work well.
Remember: Physics don't have to be REALISTIC, they just have to be CONSISTANT and INTUITIVE. Simplification is great if it still "feels" right.

Example weapon: Two pipes joined at an angled joint like a lowercase "y". High pressure gas/vapour (probably steam or whatever) goes down the long pipe and out the end. The other is filled with ball-bearings that barely fit. Ventauri effect turns this into a machine gun, as balls are sucked in, accelerated, and projected at the fools outside!

Example engine: electric motor pinned to a rubber cylinder. You have a wheel. Make four and wire the left together, right together. You have drive and steering now.

Example engine 2: Nozzles that shoot aresolized alcahol/oil/whatever over a heated wire make rocket boosters. Place on a hovercraft and profit?





Generaly, what is needed is:

Materials. Rubber, wood, steel, etc.
    Shapes. Primitives, tubes, etc. made out of a material.
        Constraints (a way to stick shapes together)
        Simple actuators/whatever to transform energy from one form to another eg. a motor that is attached to electricity applys torque over a constraint or a piston that is a shape that stretches when attached to a pressurized fluid
Fluids. Water, oil, steam, magma, etc.

A physics engine that can handle rigid body collisions, strong welds, hinges, and do some form of fluid calculations (Pv=nRt for gases transfering, level seeking for liquids) or some abstraction thereof for fuel lines/etc.





Knight of fools? That description gave me tears in my eyes. It's just so tragicly EPIC and matches what I've wished for for so long...