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Putnam

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Automaton Fortress (3.0) (is rly dead)
« on: January 27, 2012, 09:47:38 pm »

This is super dead, sorry.

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 12:30:20 am »

Huh, rovers are funny things. Might steal a bit from Wasteland and see if I can make less "domestic" metal creature. Fireballers are always fun, right?
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 04:55:46 pm »

Are these automations simple creations? or so they have gears and whatnot? And do those gears when damaged hinder the automanton? Do they heal wounds?

I'm just a huge fan of complex inorganic critters is all :P
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 04:56:26 pm »

Now this looks -really- interesting, I do love my robots  :o

One thing though. If I try it, I'm probably going to mod all references to 'diamond' to be 'titanium' instead.

Leader caste should so be titanium. I mean, come on. Platium or diamond? Nah, titanium is where it's at!  ;D
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 05:06:38 pm »

Titanium isn't as strong as steel, though.

If diamond had metallic bonds as part of it's structure, it would be stronger.

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 05:13:43 pm »

Titanium isn't as strong as steel, though.

In the game, or in real life? I just looked titanium up on wikipdia, and I read mention that when properly alloyed, titanium is as strong or stonger than steal but almost half the weight...
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 05:39:07 pm »

Titanium isn't as strong as steel, though.

In the game, or in real life? I just looked titanium up on wikipdia, and I read mention that when properly alloyed, titanium is as strong or stonger than steal but almost half the weight...

Titanium isn't in the vanilla game, but here's my personal take on it (based on RL values):

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[INORGANIC:TITANIUM]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:titanium]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten titanium]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling titanium]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[SPEC_HEAT:520]
[MELTING_POINT:13002]
[BOILING_POINT:15917]
[SOLID_DENSITY:4507]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:4110]
[MOLAR_MASS:47687]
[IMPACT_YIELD:298246]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:596491]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:206]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:298246]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:596491]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:206]
[TENSILE_YIELD:85213]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:170426]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:40]
[TORSION_YIELD:85213]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:170426]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:101]
[SHEAR_YIELD:85213]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:170426]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:101]
[BENDING_YIELD:85213]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:170426]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:40]
[MAX_EDGE:10000]

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 06:06:49 pm »

I'm still somewhat new to the game, so I can't make sense of all that, but if those values you gave it make it not as good as steel in-game, then one or the other is incorrect. Titanium is supposed to be better than steel.  ???
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 06:14:18 pm »

I'm still somewhat new to the game, so I can't make sense of all that, but if those values you gave it make it not as good as steel in-game, then one or the other is incorrect. Titanium is supposed to be better than steel.  ???

It's supposed to be "as strong as some steels, but lighter".

The steel in DF is some pretty good stuff.

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 06:36:27 pm »

It's supposed to be "as strong as some steels, but lighter".

The steel in DF is some pretty good stuff.

And those titanium values you made don't fit that criteria? Not trying to be sarcastic, I honestly don't know.
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 06:40:13 pm »

I think they do fit the criteria of being better than some low-grade steel, yes.

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 06:42:21 pm »

Titanium is Candy lite.

Which is ironic 'cause candy is lighter.
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 06:43:18 pm »

Huh. Well then, need a new metal that's in between steel and 'cotton candy', I thought that would be titanium, but apparently not.

Or make the leader caste actually adamantine. :o It's just odd to me how they are a gem instead of a metal...
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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 06:55:20 pm »

Huh. Well then, need a new metal that's in between steel and 'cotton candy', I thought that would be titanium, but apparently not.

Or make the leader caste actually adamantine. :o It's just odd to me how they are a gem instead of a metal...

Well, it's not actually a gem, it's a metal with the same name and physical properties of a gem.

A gem that happens to be strong as hell.

Seriously, the diamond is way above steel in power in this mod. Not as good as addy, but still very strong.

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Re: Automaton Fortress (3.0)
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 07:02:30 pm »

Fun fact: while diamonds are top of Mohs scale (and are hence difficult to scratch) , they are also fucking fragile.
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