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DrPoo

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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 08:44:48 pm »

Gender stereotypes have always frustrated me, even before adolescence and now adulthood.
We live in a world where women can be domineering and masculine but men are quickly categorized 'pussies' (etc) for being feminine and submissive.
I'm not saying that pop culture doesn't ostracize masculine women, pop culture ostracizes everyone, but in real life you don't hear the same harassment as you do when you're a feminine male. Add a petite body frame and a fondness of tight clothes? HEY IT'S THAT GAY KID ;D

Anyway, part of the reason why I left highschool is the above. Someone also defaced my facebook so it said I was a homosexual and AIDS ridden. I liked little boys etc.
Now I'm finishing up school in adult ed, that's going well. Small groups>Large Classes

Also; I have many homosexual friends and I protect them whenever they get grief. So I automatically get targeted for that as well.
I mean, we're all people aren't we? Can't we just accept our differences and move on?
I never did anything to hurt these people, why do they seek me out so they can hurt me?

:\ Anyway /rant over

I usually dislike homosexuals, mostly of darwinistic/biological reasons, but also from social ones. As soon as that pop kid jumps out of the closet, he gets privileges, shitloads of them, ever since this guy jumped out at our school the girls havent done anything but licking his butt(metaphorically). Theres this girl that has a mouth like a runny asshole that constantly talks about how extreme right wing politicians are the only good ones even though they dont even support her kind, she used to run about chanting "GAYS MUST BE SHOT AND KILLED! BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD STAY OUT OF THEIR COUNTRIES, BLACK *censored*", but as soon as that guy in her dumbass circle jumped out, she went "lol cute". And then everyone in that dumbass circle treats him like a fucking sheik, and now he thinks everyone thinks he is cool because of his homosexuality. He never asks for a thing, just grabs it out of your hand, he never asks if one could move out of their way, he steals and he lies, doing all that with that (sorry for using the word) self centric faggot smile. He thinks because he is gay, every other non homosexuals human rights and private space are void. The worst thing is his "feminized" way of speaking, with usual teenage boy voice, but that kind of twist usually applied by elderly prostitutes and transvestites.(Hah a footnote is that she hates swedes, yet she lives in a swedish house)

When i was out flying(thats what i call it when i was on meds), i believed that all homosexuals should have their rights voided, and that they should not be let reproduce, or bear childrens, since that would be detrimental to human population and evolution. But that was back then, now i generally regard them as slightly annoying egoists with sexual deviances, just as equally human as a shitposting tower of crap like me.

Maybe im just taking everything too serious, and maybe i am biased by my straightness, maybe i am just pretty fucking tired and shouldnt post this early in the morning. Good night. Ill finish this later.


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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 08:53:02 pm »

SNIP

Wow, you're a pretty fucked up dude.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 08:54:02 pm »

The problem about double standards is when you start implying that you're worse off, or that the fact that there's a double standard invalidates other people's problems.

Yes, there are double standards.  No, it's not a contest.

the thing is many people believe the double standards are so overwhelmingly against women that even thinking it affects men and being willing to say it outloud is considered sexist.

Which is essentially why I think society will never advance... because we don't WANT to eliminate sexism and racism. It is too fun.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 09:01:27 pm »

You might be able to escape a ban for bigoted posts if you fix it now and apologise, DrPoo.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 09:14:33 pm »

Well, not all homosexuals act that way. ._.
We're all different and unique. >.> Therefor we're all the same ;D (oxymoron).

Onto society. Society is an ever-evolving enigma. It will one day become more than a mass of leaderless sheep crowding around the latest societal 'norm'.
On that day, we may or may not lose our humanity. I imagine it depends on what you think makes us human.

Progress can be slow and painful, but the march of progress cannot truly be stopped forever.
Look at the Dark Ages for instance. Not much progression until feudal society began modernizing their views on how things should be run.
Huzzah ;D Progress.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 09:21:23 pm »

Wow, you're a pretty fucked up dude.

In your haste to condemn him, careful that you do not become the very thing you rail against.

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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 09:24:15 pm »

Ugh, I'm too tired to deal with all this in detail now... So I'll just have to point out the most obvious thing.

@DrPoo -
You do realise he gets those "privileges" because he's popular and high up on the status ladder, not because he's gay, right?


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Hah a footnote is that she hates swedes, yet she lives in a swedish house

Also what.


@LoneTopHat -
It's off topic, I know, but it's a pet peeve; The Dark Ages saw plenty of progress. The idea that it somehow didn't is a renaissance myth, as those people didn't think anything was worth anything unless it was done by Romans. It did you mean social progress? Because well, yeah, that's more true, I guess. Generally speaking.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 09:25:53 pm »

Ugh, I'm too tired to deal with all this in detail now... So I'll just have to point out the most obvious thing.

@DrPoo -
You do realise he gets those "privileges" because he's popular and high up on the status ladder, not because he's gay, right?


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Hah a footnote is that she hates swedes, yet she lives in a swedish house

Also what.


@LoneTopHat -
It's off topic, I know, but it's a pet peeve; The Dark Ages saw plenty of progress. The idea that it somehow didn't is a renaissance myth, as those people didn't think anything was worth anything unless it was done by Romans. It did you mean social progress? Because well, yeah, that's more true, I guess. Generally speaking.
It certainly saw progress in the way of killing things I suppose ;D
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 09:32:44 pm »

I know you're joking, but consider warfare since the 18th century. Quite the progress, no? Medieval (and I assume we're talking European here, or it's even more wrong) times mostly saw progression in defense. Nowadays our aggressive tech is so sophisticated defense is almost useless.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 09:34:10 pm »

Wow, you're a pretty fucked up dude.

In your haste to condemn him, careful that you do not become the very thing you rail against.

A homophobe?
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 09:59:36 pm »

I can see where DrPoo is coming from; flaming queens get annoying after a while, and make terrible boyfriends. it's OK to just be gay, without making a joke of yourself.

Some gay people are the equivilent of a hetero guy who wears a "Bikini Inspector"/"Beaver Patrol" t-shirt; or a hetero woman wearing super high heals and too much makeup. It's their right to do so, but it's annoying.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 10:11:12 pm »

I can see where DrPoo is coming from; flaming queens get annoying after a while, and make terrible boyfriends. it's OK to just be gay, without making a joke of yourself.

Some gay people are the equivilent of a hetero guy who wears a "Bikini Inspector"/"Beaver Patrol" t-shirt; or a hetero woman wearing super high heals and too much makeup. It's their right to do so, but it's annoying.

Indeed there are annoying people of all sorts. 

I still disagree with him though.  Making generalizations the way he did is sort of the root of the problem here.
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 10:11:42 pm »

Wow, you're a pretty fucked up dude.

In your haste to condemn him, careful that you do not become the very thing you rail against.

A homophobe?

Let me tell you a story:

Tom has beliefs that Bob strongly disagrees with, and believes are unhealthy. Bob doesn't want to live in a society full of people who believe what Tom does, and actively speaks against them, often using the derogatory term X to refer to Tom and those who believes the way he does. Bob doesn't understand why anyone would believe what Tom does, or even why they would want to. And he's especially bothered that children are being taught to think the way that Tom does by people he thinks really ought to know better.

Isn't it interesting that the above paragraph makes just as much sense whether X is "faggot" or "homophobe?"

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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 10:13:02 pm »

A man does a thing. This thing does another thing. This thing does another thing. Then everybody died.

I'm not sure where the logic lies in statements deliberately constructed to be as generically useless as possible...

How about "Bobby practices X. X doesn't hurt anybody in itself any more than practices Y and Z do. Johnny believes Q and practices Y, Q doesn't itself hurt people but it encourages a social attitude that leads to the dehumanisation of a specific group of people who practice X, causing them to be treated as sub-human and often suffer immense personal pain that can go to great extremes."
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Re: Gender Stereotypes & Homosexuality
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 10:23:16 pm »

My apologies.  I now see that it is wrong to speak out against those with unfair or bigoted views.

Doctor Poo, please continue your gay bashing.
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