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[adwarf]

Can we make Intelligent items ourselves as starting items?

If not I just wasted 30 minutes making the best waste of 60,000 gold ever.

[The Fool]

I think that you can there isn't any restrictions as far as I can tell. I mean it is from a core book, and it's kind of pricy for some of the effects. I didn't realize how cheap intelligent weapons would be at this point though. I think that I should invest in a talking glass orb for Neciel at some point. It would cost her 16,500 for an orb that can use Locate Object 3/day, and have constant Detect Scrying (for the diviner's paranoia of being scryed without knowing).

[SeriousConcentrate]

Redid Toman's redone portrait to be moar golden. Think this looks better?



EDIT: To add previous portrait for comparison purposes.

[Skyrunner]

Spoiler: Flowing Hammer stats (click to show/hide)

A Medium sized hammer. It glows red. The hammer is made of some kind of rock, whose glowing patterns are reminescent of a magma flow. It's handle is comparativly cool to the touch.

Omen - The closer to sea level the hammer gets, the hotter the hammer head grows.

+1 Hammer

Lv 5~10 = Least
Lv 11~16 = Lesser
Lv 17~20 = Greater

Req
Not elf or half-elf.
Not druid.

Wielder Level
        Reflex penalty  Hit Point loss   AC penalty           Abilities
5th                                                                              +1 flaming hammer
6th                                   2                     -1                  Fire resistance 5
7th           -1                     2                                          Lava slap 1/day
8th                                                               
9th           -2                     2                                         
10th                                 2                                          Fire resistence 10
11th                                 2                                         +2 flaming elfbane hammer
12th         -3                     2                                          Feat:Armed Grapple
13th                                                         -2                 Primordial Force 1/day
14th                                  2                                         +3 flaming elfbane hammer
15th         -4                     2                                          Lava slap 2/day
16th                                 2                                           Fire resistance 20
17th         -5                                                                +4 flaming elfbane hammer
18th                                 2                      -3                 Fire immunity
19th                                 2                                           
20th                                 2                                           Atomsmasher 1/day



Ritual
(DC 18 - Purify)

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(DC 25 - Subdue)

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(DC 31 - Rebirth)

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Legacy Abilities
  Lava slap
  On a successful melee attack, at a mental command the hammerhead may explode into lava and engulf the target. The target must make a DC 15+(wielder's Str modifier) Fortitude save on his turn, or else receive 15d6 fire damage and 5d6 bludgeoning damage. Even on a successful save, the target receives 5d6 bludgeoning damage. After the initial save, the wielder of the Flowing Hammer may either recall the hammerhead as a free action, or keep the lava on. If the lava remains on the target, he must take a full-round action to remove the lava, or else make a DC 20 Fortitude save and receive 10d6 fire damage. While the target is afflicted with the lava, he is treated as being Grappled for purposes of AC.

  Armed Grapple (Feat)
  The creature with this feat gains Improved Grapple as a bonus feat. If he already has Improved Grapple, he gains . In addition to that, the creature gains an additional +2 to grapple when using Flowing Hammer, and may attack with Flowing Hammer whenever he can deal damage with a light weapon during a grapple.

  Primordial Force
  The wielder of Flowing Hammer may designate one target within 100 ft. It must make a DC 15 + (wielder's Wis modifier) Fortitude save or DC 15 + (wielder's Wis modifier) Will save, whichever is higher, or be afflicted with flesh to stone. If the target is immune to flesh to stone, he is assumed to have automatically saved. If the target saves, it receives 10d6 untyped damage and is stunned for one round, disregarding any immunities to Stunning.

  Atomsmasher
  This is a full-round action. The target is hit with Flowing Hammer. It must make a DC (20 + wielder's Strength modifier) Fortitude save, or be instantly killed, its constituting matter folded into nothingness. This is similar to one round of the spell Implosion, except it does not allow spell resistance. If the creature saves, it receives 15d6 fire damage and 5d6 bludgeoning damage.

If there are any glaring unbalances in the stats, please let me know >.>

[SeriousConcentrate]

Er... it's fine as far as I can see, but I'll have to request Dwarmin, Fool, or Sho explain exactly what its level 14 stats are to me. ^^^; It's, um... -3 Reflex, -2 HP, -2 AC... +3 enchantment, +2d6 on elves, +1d6 fire? I think it might actually be worse than his normal DW. >.> +3 with Collision and no glaring penalties/conditional bonuses... Its extra abilities are nice, though.

[Skyrunner]

Actually, you still can add Collision (though at a very high price) - it's effectively a +7 weapon, and Collision is +2.

Also, you can choose to just wield your normal one and draw Flowing Hammer with a move action to use its special effects.

[SeriousConcentrate]

The only problem I actually have with it - and I'm not requesting this to be changed, since it wouldn't be fair to do so - is that -4 to Reflex (I forgot Toman's level of Bard, he's actually level 15 total >.>) that's only going to get worse as Toman levels... and he's got horrible Reflex in the first place, and practically everything is a Reflex save. XD It's actually -16 to HP though, isn't it? That's fine, at least Toman can take that particular hit without worrying too much about it; he'll still have 189 HP. I wish I'd chosen a different dragon than gold now though since adwarf is also gold and Flowing Hammer gives fire resistance/immunity, making it redundant, but oh well. I didn't know back then Saint wouldn't be around to take it. ^^^;

Edit: That AC hit actually gives him a touch AC of 9. O_O; Thank God he's got spell resistance now is all I'm going to say...

[Skyrunner]

The Legacy Weapons book really made it weird; Reflex save penalties are what's written, but HP penalties are added up...

So, by level 20, you get -5 to Ref, -24 to HP, and -3 to AC.

But...yeah, there's a lot of reflex saves in D&D...

[SeriousConcentrate]

New plan for Toman:
1. Take Gigantic Weapon.
2. Take Two Weapon Fighting.
3. Dualwield Collision DW and Flowing Hammer.
4. ?
5. Profit!

Actually I can't do that. XD His next and last feat (assuming we stop at L20) is at Level 18, in three levels. I could still take Gigantic Weapon, though, and just use both at a slight penalty...

EDIT: Furthermore I couldn't since TWF needs 15 Dex and he only has 13...

EDIT2: Wow, the penalties for dual-wielding without TWF are severe. O.o

[Theoboldi]

You could use a +Dex item to qualify. I think it's mentioned somewhere that your modified ability scores count after 24 hours of wearing the item. Also, feat retraining, but I'm not sure if Sky would allow that. I hope he does, the potential for destruction with those two weapons is too much to pass up.

[SeriousConcentrate]

You could use a +Dex item to qualify. I think it's mentioned somewhere that your modified ability scores count after 24 hours of wearing the item. Also, feat retraining, but I'm not sure if Sky would allow that. I hope she does, the potential for destruction with those two weapons is too much to pass up.

FTFY. ^^^ I wouldn't ask for it though, I already did complete character retraining for Rae and I don't want to keep asking for it... ^^^;

[The Fool]

Feat retraining is strictly one per level as I recall. It isn't a full character redo. If you just need to move some feats around for it you still can. If it's a stat issue that magic items can't solve you're out of luck.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Huh. I didn't know that. Toman might have a feat or two he doesn't need.

Yep, he does. I'll drop Ultimate Cleave, it's a hassle to keep up with anyway. ^^^ So replacing that with Lighten Weapon. Then I'll have to have Rae, Drake, and Anya donate enough cash to him to get some +2 gloves of Dexterity; he can probably sell his Gauntlets of Ogre Power for some extra cash, and I can always (hopefully) get a belt of giant strength later on to make up for that. I think that'll work. Next level I'll drop Cleave for Improved Lighten Weapon, and then at level 17 drop Power Attack for Two Weapon Fighting and it should be all good. ^^^

[Dwarmin]

@SC: Tali still has her old +2 Dex gloves, the ones that got replaced when you gave her the ones with the +6 upgrade.

So, if he asks she'll give them to him.

[SeriousConcentrate]

I forgot about those. >.> Sure, I'll take them. Thanks. *gets cardcrushed for walking into it like a chump* I guess we can reason it out as repayment for that shield Toman gave her earlier. ^^^