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[Araph]

Can't hurt to ask: can Vulsano get a set of Wings of Flying? Or is that too expensive?

EDIT: And would it be possible for someone unbiased (i.e. not me) to check this stereotypical fantasy hero class for balance? I tried to make it not overpowered, but that isn't something I'm very good at.

[Shoruke]

EDIT: And would it be possible for someone unbiased (i.e. not me) to check this stereotypical fantasy hero class for balance? I tried to make it not overpowered, but that isn't something I'm very good at.

For a start, it needs some more clarification for "BAB progression". Just switching your "Base Attack Bonus progression" partway through a class... just doesn't work nicely. If you start as a fighter archetype and switch to mage, do you get more Base Attack Bonus at even levels (because wizards get another BAB point at even levels), or odd levels (as if you were multiclassing into wizard starting at level 6)? If you switch between thief and mage, do you "partial" base attack bonuses carry over?

It might work better if you had three seperate tables, one for each archetype, to see which bonuses to saves/BAB are granted at which levels...

Oh, and no, playing as a gestalt fighter/sorcerer with access to cleric spells is not balanced.

[Araph]

I'll clarify the BAB thing; I didn't think that through enough, I guess. I also got rid of cleric spells. And the class isn't near on par with sorcerers, spell wise; they get fewer spells per day than wizards and fewer spells known than sorcerers.

[Skyrunner]

I think it is not balanced, mainly because:

(1) (For some reason) the Hero gets a full attack of 1 attack. O_o Or did I read it wrong?
(2) The hero gets as many spells/day as your average sub-par wizard, and the hit die of your average fighter.
(3) ...Uh, what shoruke said - gestalt character, basically.

I propose one or more of the following: (a) Stripping your spells per day down. Way down. As in, 'never get 8 or 9th level spells' type of down. Umm, view the Paladin's spells per day list for a similar idea. (b) Actually, that's probably the largest offender...Oh, that and getting 2 fast progression Saves, but that's less important.

As for the wings, I don't see much problem.

As for 8-bit theater, it's pretty amusing :3

[Araph]

Ok, fixed the tables for saves and BAB; I'd actually forgotten to put in the full attack thing, but I'll fix that now.

I'll get rid of the highest level spells, as well.

Also, now saves are dependent on what archetype you choose, as opposed to being static.

EDIT: Highest level castable spells are 5th level. Is that okay?

[Skyrunner]

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[Araph]

I'm not sure what to make of the line of dashes.

[Skyrunner]

Eh, I was asking if anyone could have a session, but I erased it

[Araph]

Ah, I see. If other people can make it, I'd be available to play.

And about the aforementioned class: what else should I change? Is it closer to balanced, now?

[Skyrunner]

Actually, yes, its much less gestalt-y than before. It still might have a number of problems... including the fact that Cone of Cold hurts a very lot. That's what inevitably happens when you add a fighter and a wizard/sorc.

I want to ask, where are you planning on using it? O_o

[Araph]

I want to ask, where are you planning on using it? O_o

<_<

>_>

Nowhere...

[Skyrunner]

Hehe


...Right now, I'm writing up the stats for Winterer O_o Apparently it gives you a bunch of extra abilities per level.

[Dwarmin]

I'd be ready for a bonus session tonight, too. Especially if I can figure a way to introduce Bael into the party...

His sheets done anyway! And his dog too.

Bael --      http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=370948
Johndryr-- http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=313601

[Skyrunner]

How do you think of these stats for Winterer? :3

Spoiler: Winterer's stats (click to show/hide)

A thin-bladed bastard sword, tinged blue. It softly glows white. The metal is perpetually cool to the touch. The

blade itself is sharp even at a glance.
The sword's hilt is also made of the same material as the blade. The crossguard is simple.

Omen - The blade is always cool to the touch, whether in flame or fire. When moonlight hits the blade, it gives off

an aura of white like that of snow.

+1 Bastard Sword

Lv 5~10 = Least
Lv 11~16 = Lesser
Lv 17~20 = Greater

Req
BAB over 10
Non-spellcaster

Wielder Level
        Will save pen.  Hit Point loss   Attack Penalty    Abilities
5th                                                                              +2 bastard sword
6th                                   2                     -1                  Ice resistance 5
7th           -1                     2                                          Frigid Sunder 1/day
8th                                                               
9th           -2                     2                                         
10th                                 2                                          Ice resistance 10
11th                                 2                      -2                +3 icy burst bastard sword
12th         -3                     2                                          Frigid Sunder 3/day
13th                                                         -3                 
14th                                  2                                          Arcane Bane 3/day
15th         -4                     2                      -4                 Personal Antimagic Field
16th                                 2                                           Ice resistance 20
17th         -5                                                                +4 icy burst bastard sword
18th                                 2                      -5                 Ice immunity
19th                                 2                                           
20th                                 2                                           Subsume in Ice 1/day



Ritual
(DC 18 - Purify)

tba

(DC 25 - Subdue)

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(DC 31 - Rebirth)

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Legacy Abilities
  Ice Resistence
  Frigid Sunder
     +20 on a sunder attempt
  Arcane Bane
     On a failed Reflex or Fortitude save against an arcane spell, you may choose to roll again. If you fail the save once

more, you may rob and use one of the caster's spell slots.
  Personal Antimagic Field
     When you succeed in striking a enemy, you may choose to create an antimagic field in the four cardinal directions. The antimagic field lasts 1 round + Cha modifier.
  Subsume in Ice
      1/day, immediate action. 30ft Cone of Cold. This attack ignores the effect of Personal Antimagic Field.

[Dwarmin]

Looks very cool for our resident dual wielders.

Toman could even take a level in Warblade and retrain his Dwarven Waraxe feats into Bastard Sword ones if he really wanted it.