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Urist Da Vinci

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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 09:42:42 pm »

The Tomb of Horrors.

Or, you could incorporate a segment where you have to open a door and navigate a maze while being chased by a magma flood - a single lever opens the door and releases the magma behind you, blocking escape. Pulling the lever again shouldn't close the magma hatches.

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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 09:50:01 pm »

Easily done with non magma safe mechanisms. The floodgate will simply detatch.


Another:

Build fortress population to reasonably high levels. Initiate a tantrum sprial. Wait for ghosts to kill the rest of the fortress. This leaves the murerous ghosts at the site.
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 10:21:27 pm »

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Build fortress population to reasonably high levels. Initiate a tantrum sprial. Wait for ghosts to kill the rest of the fortress. This leaves the murerous ghosts at the site.

OR murder fortress population with atom smashing bridges on a regular basis. Don't slab any ghosts. Try to keep going as long as possible, using migrants to increase the number of ghosts. Try to see if there is a ghost cap.

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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2012, 12:45:59 am »

Easily done with non magma safe mechanisms. The floodgate will simply detatch.


Another:

Build fortress population to reasonably high levels. Initiate a tantrum sprial. Wait for ghosts to kill the rest of the fortress. This leaves the murerous ghosts at the site.

Using ghosts as a weapon. How can you take advantage of this? Can you herd them into one area?
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2012, 12:56:11 am »

I still like the 16 lever puzzle I mentioned earlier.  Makes a nice neat 4x4 square of levers. If the incorrect sequence is triggered, there is a chance of flooding the room. There is a delay before the door opens on the correct sequence (the rube goldberg contraption has to do its thing first), making an impatient human skip it as ineffectual.
Instead of just 4x4, make it big enough to draw something (not all levers have to be active). Example: To get through, you have to have a good old smiley dwarf. If you draw a g, it opens the goblin cave. etc.
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 01:05:39 am »

How about an artificial river which is kept full by a pump. Figuring out how to disable the water pump, drains the river, and provides access to a secret tunnel.
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 01:14:29 am »

How about an artificial river which is kept full by a pump. Figuring out how to disable the water pump, drains the river, and provides access to a secret tunnel.

The inverse would be having to flood a room so that you can swim up to an inaccessible ledge a few z-levels above you.

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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 04:11:59 am »

Easily done with non magma safe mechanisms. The floodgate will simply detatch.


Another:

Build fortress population to reasonably high levels. Initiate a tantrum sprial. Wait for ghosts to kill the rest of the fortress. This leaves the murerous ghosts at the site.

Using ghosts as a weapon. How can you take advantage of this? Can you herd them into one area?

The intent was for adventure mode !!FUN!!.  IIRC homocidal ghosts go after dwarves. A dwarf adventurer could be "yummy".
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 05:24:28 am »

I still like the 16 lever puzzle I mentioned earlier.  Makes a nice neat 4x4 square of levers. If the incorrect sequence is triggered, there is a chance of flooding the room. There is a delay before the door opens on the correct sequence (the rube goldberg contraption has to do its thing first), making an impatient human skip it as ineffectual.

That' s a chance of 1 in 65,536 of opening the door bro.
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 05:51:49 am »

Easily done with non magma safe mechanisms. The floodgate will simply detatch.


Another:

Build fortress population to reasonably high levels. Initiate a tantrum sprial. Wait for ghosts to kill the rest of the fortress. This leaves the murerous ghosts at the site.

Using ghosts as a weapon. How can you take advantage of this? Can you herd them into one area?

The intent was for adventure mode !!FUN!!.  IIRC homocidal ghosts go after dwarves. A dwarf adventurer could be "yummy".

Do ghosts still appear in adventure mode though?

I think red herring levers could be entertaining. One door, three levers. Blue one floods the room with water, red one floods the room with magma, grey one obsidianises you. And the one to open the door is either hidden by a pillar or in a different room entirely...
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 06:32:49 am »

That' s a chance of 1 in 65,536 of opening the door bro.

its a lot worse if you count the order in which you flip levers.
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 01:02:44 pm »

I still like the 16 lever puzzle I mentioned earlier.  Makes a nice neat 4x4 square of levers. If the incorrect sequence is triggered, there is a chance of flooding the room. There is a delay before the door opens on the correct sequence (the rube goldberg contraption has to do its thing first), making an impatient human skip it as ineffectual.

That' s a chance of 1 in 65,536 of opening the door bro.

I am well aware of this. (Evil, sadistic laughter.)

It is so much more FUN than a 2x2 lever puzzle. That only has 16 possible combinations. I want to frustrate the shit out of the adventue mode player.  Especially if I put some of ASCIt's research to use, and have a thriving slade crafts surplus stored in there.

Are you telling me you wouldn't at last try to get a 600U scepter for your misc item thrower to use? (Note, this is heavier than most boulders.) ....just behind that door.........
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Re: Secret Surprises for the Intelligent Invader
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2012, 01:36:18 pm »

How about an artificial river which is kept full by a pump. Figuring out how to disable the water pump, drains the river, and provides access to a secret tunnel.

The inverse would be having to flood a room so that you can swim up to an inaccessible ledge a few z-levels above you.



I hated the Water Temple.
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