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I want children, but I don't have any.-Male

64 (41%)

I want children, but I don't have any.-Female

2 (1.3%)

I don't want children and I don't have any.-Male

72 (46.2%)

I don't want children and I don't have any.-Female

6 (3.8%)

I have children and am happy I had them.-Male

9 (5.8%)

I have children and am happy I had them.-Female

3 (1.9%)

I have children and I regret it.-Male

0 (0%)

I have children and I regret it.-Female

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 154

[Bauglir]

No, evolution's only conception of "wrong" is failure to produce reproducible offspring. It's an adaptation to cease spending metabolic energy maintaining a useless sensory mechanism, because that's an improvement in the creature's energy efficiency. If you move to another country and learn the language, forgetting your own in the process, that is an adaptation because you're better suited to your current environment. It's just an adaptation that had a cost, like every other adaptation. I guess you can set up your definitions differently, arbitrarily defining what counts as a "capability" or not (it's about as difficult as defining what a "species" is, to be honest - sounds simple, but corner cases will fuck your shit up), but don't expect people to agree with you.

There are vestigial organs and such, and for that matter much (if not most) of your DNA is vestigial, but that's because those are cases where the pressure against retaining those things hasn't been sufficient to get rid of them, and genetic drift, bottlenecks, and suchlike are all things, and they screw with simple ideas about what's evolutionarily optimal. Don't even get me started on bird plumage (sexual selection can get pretty out of control). Given what I know about how the eyes work, I have absolutely no trouble believing that there's a significantly higher pressure against maintaining eyesight than there is against having eyes in the first place, to continue with this horribly off-topic example.

However, all that said, we should really get off this topic - Idiocracy was a comedy and people who take it seriously don't understand the difference between comedy science and real science, but technically, yes, to say it got nothing right is obviously false as evidenced by the number of people restrained by the force of gravity and suchlike. I shouldn't even really have made this post, it's just a discussion about evolution is happening and my will is weak >______>

[G-Flex]

No, evolution's only conception of "wrong" is failure to produce reproducible offspring. It's an adaptation to cease spending metabolic energy maintaining a useless sensory mechanism, because that's an improvement in the creature's energy efficiency.

It's worth noting here that sensory organs require a lot of energy to run, mostly in the brain (or whatever neural processing). The eyes probably aren't even the most wasteful part, but vision in general is pretty wasteful if you don't need it, considering how much brainpower is required to constantly interpret that sensory data and integrate it into whatever mechanisms the organism has regarding its sense of the world around it.

[simsam114]

I definitely want to have kids someday.

[Siquo]

She: "Daddy, I love you thiiiiiis much!" *stretches arms as far as she can* "And when I'm older I love you even more!"
Me: "... Because your arms will be longer?"
She: "Yes!"

Unassailable logic.

[SalmonGod]

My kids have been really sweet like that too, lately... when they're not too busy trying to violently destroy each other.

[Tellemurius]

My kids have been really sweet like that too, lately... when they're not too busy trying to violently destroy each other.

Its pretty simple just watch them or give them something to do other than TV. Shit with that 3 acre land we had, me and my little brother did so much stupid shit and stopped us most of time from fighting. Course doesn't help im the only family member that actually kicked the ADD diagnose without meds (which were terrible when i took them and never helped).

[SalmonGod]

Fighting between brothers is perfectly natural.  They have to be left to resolve it between themselves if they're ever going to learn to how to figure out interpersonal issues on their own.  I just need to convince my wife of that, who is always on the verge of a nervous breakdown when I get home.  She spent most of her childhood alone with her grandparents out in the country.  I spent mine with 3 younger siblings.  I tune it out automatically, but she goes insane.

[FuzzyZergling]

I hate children (young children moreso), and have absolutely no intent of ever producing any.
I'm not really sure why.

[Telgin]

Fighting between brothers is perfectly natural.  They have to be left to resolve it between themselves if they're ever going to learn to how to figure out interpersonal issues on their own.  I just need to convince my wife of that, who is always on the verge of a nervous breakdown when I get home.  She spent most of her childhood alone with her grandparents out in the country.  I spent mine with 3 younger siblings.  I tune it out automatically, but she goes insane.

Oddly enough, I never fought with my two brothers very much.  My younger brother tried my patience a lot, but it rarely turned into actual fighting.

I understand that this is pretty common though, and I can totally understand the above situation.  I'd probably get pretty stressed if I had kids that fought, even if it was the typical rough housing.

[Lysabild]

I learned how to very best piss my brother off, I then proceeded to piss him off and he'd beat me up. Rinse and repeat.


My brother is easily the most important person in my life.

[timotheus]

My son is one of the greatest joys in my life. There is a whole story branch your character will miss out on if you don't down the offspring path.

We're leaning towards one more. I've heard from many people that when the kids outnumber the parents, then you're in trouble. (From a 3 child family here, so I understand that.)

Also, to earlier posts, I agree with having children earlier. I'm 29, and still have pep in my step, even with no sleep on occasion. I can't imagine being 10 years older with a small child.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There is a whole story branch your character will miss out on if you don't down the offspring path.

There's also a whole lot you'll miss out on if you do have children, so that point is rather moot.

[RedKing]

My son is one of the greatest joys in my life. There is a whole story branch your character will miss out on if you don't down the offspring path.

We're leaning towards one more. I've heard from many people that when the kids outnumber the parents, then you're in trouble. (From a 3 child family here, so I understand that.)

Also, to earlier posts, I agree with having children earlier. I'm 29, and still have pep in my step, even with no sleep on occasion. I can't imagine being 10 years older with a small child.

We decided to stop at two, specifically because we didn't want to be outnumbered. And give me three years and I'll let you know how that "being 39 w/ small child" thing works out. Cause my son will be about 4 and a half.

[GlyphGryph]

Pssh, Redking, after 2 you can use additional children to turn the older ones to your side and take over stupid time consuming responsibilities! Plus, with your additional experience, that's the point where each additional child gets notable easier!

And there's absolutely nothing that could possible go wrong with that sort of logic.

Anyways, in my experience some fighting between siblings is okay, but a lot isn't - and often times it's got nothing to do with the siblings and everything to do with the parents. As soon as they are removed from the parental influence, they get along just fine.

Not saying yours are fighting for that reason, SalmonGod, sometimes kids just fight, but in general for excessive conflict its important for parents to look at which of their own behaviours might be exacerbating the problem.

[Deadmeat1471]

Possibly kids someday, am Male.

Doesn't scare me, doesn't particularily interest me. Got alot of things to do before then.