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[Funk]

i did it once more, the same thing happen.
i use the number of dwarfs i did so that the loss of 1 or 2 dwarfs will not unbalance the sides to much.

mauls are crap like all blunt weapons are crap,give me a good steel battle axe any day.
no joke Pommel strikes are the way to go.

[Cyco_Chicken]

Sorry about not posting results yet on the tests I promised in the middle of the one when my computer crashed. May be a bit before I can do the tests.

[Cyco_Chicken]

I finished my testing. I did 10v10 5 times dwarves had iron armor and silver blunt maces then warhammers while gobbos had pieces of copper armor and varying weapons. They started 8 squares apart with little difference in dwarf casualtys (about 4 dead each time) the differance was that the dwarves killed the gobbos in an average of 20 seconds with maces while it took them an average of 28 seconds with warhammers. I timed this with a proper stopwatch.

[dreadmullet]

I've never understood all of this science stuff. Why don't people just ask Toady which is better?

[i2amroy]

I've never understood all of this science stuff. Why don't people just ask Toady which is better?

Because Toady is sort of busy on developing the new stuff so he doesn't actually answer questions that often. Take the future of the fortress thread for example, he answers that what, once every month or so? And that is a thread that is actually designed for people to ask him questions in. Really just figuring it out ourselves works almost as fast as asking Toady does. Plus combine that with the fact that Toady doesn't necessarily know the answers to all of the questions (since many tests come about more as a result of something intended for other things, or as an unintended side-effect of two things Toady added, or because Toady is purposely hiding something from us), and it's really more efficient to just do the tests ourselves.

[dreadmullet]

Dwarf Fortress is so complicated that even the creator doesn't know how it works. I love that.

Also, you're right, I would rather Toady work on the game than answer questions about how the game works.

[Alastar]

I doubt Toady knows, the combat system cares more about modeling things accurately than superficial balance and still has a way to go.

The weapon model seems to concern itself exclusively with impacts and to ignore weapon control (range, easy of parrying, recovery time, how tiring it is to fight with a given weapon, effectiveness in constrained spaces, which attacks other than inflicting direct hits it lends itself to...). And even impact calculations are questionable in places - see whips.

[Poindexterity]

maces are more likely to break bones.
hammers are more likely to knock a foe down.
use all weapon types available.

[agatharchides]

Yeah, from what I saw it looks like Toady just tried to model actual metal properties as well as he could and let the chips fall where they may in terms of 'balance' or what is 'best'.