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[thisisjimmy]

Well, actually the programs are still written in Java but can call C or C++ code from an external library.

That distinction is irrelevant.  If most of your code is written in C++, it seems silly to say the program is actually written in Java.  You'll be using Java for the entry point and API calls, but other than that the entire program can be written in C++.  Also, the C++ is said to be faster than Java on Android because it gets compiled to native code.

To port the game to Android, you would need to rewrite the entire user interface.  Although, to come to think of it, the UI could use a little rewriting anyhow.

As for performance, it won't be amazing, but it'll work.  I've played DF on an old computer that wasn't much faster than a modern tablet.  Just keep your population low and avoid excessive moving fluids.

[Telgin]

Well, actually the programs are still written in Java but can call C or C++ code from an external library.

That distinction is irrelevant.  If most of your code is written in C++, it seems silly to say the program is actually written in Java.  You'll be using Java for the entry point and API calls, but other than that the entire program can be written in C++.  Also, the C++ is said to be faster than Java on Android because it gets compiled to native code.

Yes, I know.  I just thought it was kind of peculiar that if there was support for native code applications that Android wouldn't support running that directly instead of having to go through a Java wrapper first.  That was the easiest path for the Android developers to take I suppose.

Performance should definitely be better, but based on what I read that might not actually be the case in some situations.  I know nothing of how Android works internally, but I wonder if has some unexpected overhead with native code applications.  They might sandbox these apps or something to help prevent stack smashing or the like, although that wouldn't have a huge performance impact I doubt.

Supposedly CPU intensive apps with relatively few memory accesses get the most benefit.  I suspect DF has quite a lot of memory accesses, but again, I have absolutely no profiler data, so I don't know how well DF could really map to Android.

[Valid_Dark]

plus it's not that hard to overclock an android.
I do whenever playing 3d games on it, (so no lag) and I underclock it whenever I'm not (less battery usage).

[IamanElfCollaborator]

You guys forget one thing...modders.

Since where did RAW editing become unimportant to the lot of you?

[Valid_Dark]

thats a loss they're going to have to take for not playing on a pc,

thats always been the case,
games released on PS3/360/PC, the PC version always has mods, the ps3 and 360 version only have updates or additional content packs purchased from game developer.

they ported Minecraft to android,
pc version gets mods, android version doesnt.
plus the game is good enough without mods, I never play with mods.

p.s. minecraft on the android sucks

[IamanElfCollaborator]

MEh, well some of us don't like not being able to mod out or in stuff, so I for one do not support this. Although...it'd be good if you could do mods for the thing on Android. To be fair, we're talking hypothetically, in about 5-6 years, we could have the capability to do RAW editing on an Android.

[Valid_Dark]

i guess it could be possible, if the program installs to a directory on the sd card you could use a file explorer and see/edit the raws.

[RoguelikesESP]

Is just impossible. The FPS will EXPLODE a phone. Is like put GTA V in a Nokia.

[DG]

5-6 years to version 1.0 is highly optimistic.

[Owlbread]

That was quite a bump. I haven't seen this thread in a long time. But yes, RoguelikesESP speaks the truth. The FPS will explode a phone.

[bmhathaway]

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[10ebbor10]

•Pentium III 450MHZ
•64MB RAM
•16MB Direct3D Graphics Card
•Directx Compatable Sound Card
•8X CDROM
•500MB Free Hard Drive Space
•Win 98/ME/NT/2000/XP

DF won't even start on that. (RAM shortage) Additionally, it can easily bring a 2.5 Ghz processor to a halt.

But really, the main point is that it's very unlikely that Toady will port DF. No experience with the platform, and no reason to do so.

[assasin]

Is there any reason why you can't just use an app that allows you to remotely access your desktop on a tablet? I've never used something like that, so I'm no expert, but I can't imagine any problems other than requiring an internet connection.

[DarkArtemisFowl]

Dear Valid Dark,
I suggest you look at the DF emulator program, DFTerm3. The author hopes that eventually he can somehow get touchscreen products to be compatible with his program, which will allow you to "technically" play DF on remote items.

What the program does is it forwards the screen of a host Dwarf Fortress game, and you are able to interact with it through your browser. Currently it does not have functionality for playing (you can watch it though) on tablets or phones, though the author is working on that.

[Putnam]

It's not an emulator, it's a screen reader-and-sender-through-the-internet.