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[Loud Whispers]

The nice thing about Australia is that it's already a wasteland, so there really isn't all that much that nukes can do to it.

Except, you know, the radiation would make Australian spiders EVEN FUCKING BIGGER.

OH CRAP SPIDERMAN WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU

Seriously though, the whole idea that the world is held together in peace because we all have M.A.D. is slightly worrying.

[Reudh]

Not everyone has M.A.D.

But it's a pretty sufficient threat to keep peace. I don't care if M.A.D is all that's keeping peace in check, it's a useful mechanism.

[Loud Whispers]

Not everyone has M.A.D.

But it's a pretty sufficient threat to keep peace. I don't care if M.A.D is all that's keeping peace in check, it's a useful mechanism.

Unless a crazy country that doesn't afraid of anythings decides to blow stuff up :|

[Reudh]

Most of the countries with sufficient craziness to do that are either: a. in the process of being toppled or will topple soon, or b. lack the funding to develop a proper one.

[Loud Whispers]

Most of the countries with sufficient craziness to do that are either: a. in the process of being toppled or will topple soon, or b. lack the funding to develop a proper one.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[eerr]

Most of the countries with sufficient craziness to do that are either: a. in the process of being toppled or will topple soon, or b. lack the funding to develop a proper one.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

90% of countries in the world would disown south Korea, including America, China, Japan and all of euroupe.

Suddenly South Korea becomes a backwards place, cut off from the world more effectively than North Korea.

So yea, not a brilliant strategic move For them to make.

Because it would be stupid to do so.


You sure you aren't fearing something smaller and closer to home?

[Reudh]

Pretty sure he means North Korea.

SK is pretty harmless regarding nuclear weapons.

[eerr]

Pretty sure he means North Korea.

SK is pretty harmless regarding nuclear weapons.ter

"democratic" is highly specific.

[Reudh]

North Korea is known officially as the DPRK; the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
South Korea is known offically as the Republic Of Korea.

[Blargityblarg]

Rule of thumb: the more explicitly the name of a state asserts the freedom of its subjects, the less freedom they have.

[Knight of Fools]

The game Missile Command was made when Dave Theurer had recurring nightmares about a world-ending nuclear apocalypse.

In fact, there is no way to win the game. You inevitably die, no matter what.

No one wins if M.A.D. breaks out. No one likes losing. Therefor, M.A.D. won't happen.

If the phobia comes up again, you could attempt to express it like Dave did. You may come up with something good.

[NobodyPro]

If it ever happens again switch the lights off, start playing DEFCON and crank up the volume.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

No, seriously don't. Ever. Crank up the volume.

[Muz]

Seriously, though.  This is nearly exactly something I've worried about before as well.  Basically, I came to peace with it.  It's unlikely we'd have massive nuclear war, because what would be the point?  Anyone launching a nuke is likely to get one in return, and what would be the victory there?  It's hard to feel good about destroying your enemy when your own country is a smoking crater itself. 

The gloating is the worst part. If you started a war over ego or democracy or just plain proving you're right, you definitely don't want to have your enemies say "Hah, we were wrong". If someone nukes you because you refuse to give them your oil, nuking them back will force you to give less oil, than a complete surrender.

Return nukes are the difference between white peace and unconditional surrender. Or trillions of dollars in reparations.

The Japanese got nuked and now they're stronger than ever. They recovered from near total destruction and became one of the world's strongest powers after a few decades. If a nuclear war happens, it's still more merciful than WW2 was, and our grandparents survived through that.

And how much help did they get from America again?

They also were nuked twice, as opposed to the saturation bombardment that a modern nuclear war would result in.

Yeah, no matter how bad it turned out, people still helped them in recovering. Though not always the case, if they were being dicks during the war.

Many of the Japanese major cities were leveled in the firebombing in order to force Japan to surrender. Bombing Tokyo alone killed more people than both atomic bombs did. So there, nukes did less damage than bombs... and being disintegrated by a nuke will probably hurt less than being charred to death by an incendiary bomb.

Plus, large scale or small scale or even terrorist's-soviet-nuke scale, it doesn't quite matter that much if it happens to you. But unless you live near a major city like NY or Paris or near some important military facility, it's not likely that your city will get nuked.. though you'd still have to deal with the nuclear fallout and giant scorpions.

[Montague]

Well, if you are curious about if your city or locale might be nuked in the event of a full-scale nuclear war, here's a state-by-state map that shows the likely areas as guesstimated by FEMA, including fallout plumes. It even shows the nuclear hits for places that are classified and/or obscure, like communications bunkers in the middle of cow country.

It's a little outdated, (SEP 1990) so some of the "dense pack" areas and resulting fall-out plumes would'nt be hit in real life because some of those ground-based ICBM silos have since been decommisioned and presumably no longer have missiles aimed at them. Might have to research that on your own if you live in one of those squarish states that still might have active missile silos.

http://www.ki4u.com/webpal/d_resources/list.htm

Where I live there are overlapping blast effects of 5 seperate warheads, hell yeah!

[bombzero]

heres something scary. the bombs used in WWII were tiny compared to a small nuclear ordinance today... the pointless Russian/American stick measuring contest Tazr Bomba, makes the hiroshima bomb look like a firecracker.