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Author Topic: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___  (Read 313114 times)

Reudh

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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #165 on: March 23, 2012, 04:45:29 am »

Hehe, I only found one reading it again. One part you forgot to capitalise Speedy's name.

Sheppard is the name, Shepherd is the profession, just so you know. Both are old english for sheep-herder (scēaphierde).

And I'll post my script, but don't bother to read through it just yet. Get some sleep, Ehndras. :P



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« Reply #166 on: March 23, 2012, 06:13:01 am »

Wow, I leave for a few days and this topic just explodes with activity.  I love you guys.  Though, I have to admit, British sounding (sorry, the way the past three pages or so of you write just makes me read it with a British accent in my head) intellectuals isn't quite what I expected from good ol' "KILL IT WITH EVERYTHING" Bay12.

Just for a lil gift, here's the opening of a short story that my friend requested of me.  Very short so far, but I'm interested in seeing what people have to say.

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Any thoughts on this lil exercise?  Once I actually sat down and got to work this took about maybe...four hours worth of writing.  And it's only three pages in Open Office  :'(
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« Reply #167 on: March 23, 2012, 06:57:08 am »

Morning all. I write some short stories at the moment, I'm studying for a degree that involves creative writing, but I'm not up to that part yet, so I'm just practising for now and seeing what I can do currently. Would you guys mind giving me some constructive criticism on the stuff I have so far? Thank you :)

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I wrote Quiet ages ago, and it's pretty rough with tenses and grammar, I know :P

Thanks again :)
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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #168 on: March 23, 2012, 07:10:03 am »

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Your structure is really odd in this one. Almost everything is totally neutral; besides the dialogue, there's no indication of what character's perspective we're supposed to be looking at things from. Fundamentally, I think it's yet another case of telling over showing: Nearly every line is "x happens. y happens."; you're outright stating what's going on as opposed to working it into the writing. I'll try to break it down (because it helps me even if it doesn't help you).

Despite the woman's obvious weariness around her eyes she doesn't show any tiredness in her movements; instead she's quite alert and the jingling of her chain beneath the cloak is audible in the windswept valley.

Here's an example of what I mean. This sentence is a statement. Weariness around the eyes obvious to who? Quite alert observed by what? If a chain jingles in the forest and there's nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound?

You could easily make this sort of thing better reading by tying it to something. This makes its inclusion more natural because it, well, actually fits in. Furthermore, you can use this to help establish other elements:

She knew that the three-eyed arctic capybara clans lurked on this road, and if any spotted her they'd likely see her as easy prey. But that was the trap - she made no effort to disguise her presence as she walked, the jingling of her chain disturbing the skittish winged ultralisks from their roostings as she passed.

It's a clumsy example but you get the idea. Here I've tried to embellish the setting, the character, and the scenario all in one short sentence.

There are other minor issues, but if there's one that jumps out at me, it's this one.
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« Reply #169 on: March 23, 2012, 07:33:50 am »

I see what you mean about the 'showing not telling', 3, but I do think that Galick's story is good nonetheless - it may be that Galick is attempting a second-person omniscient narrator; hard to do without simply stating what is happening.

They're tricky to pull off - a better idea would be either first person or third person omniscient.

The story itself is good, I enjoyed reading it. But, as 3 said, the structure is odd, most likely due to the second-person narration.

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« Reply #170 on: March 23, 2012, 07:59:51 am »

It was supposed to be third person limited, actually, but I'm in all honesty fairly bad at scene setting and any moving scenes.  My forte is dialogue and thought, which doesn't really make for an interesting story most of the time.  So I'm trying to work through it with this - I may readjust it to be a first person tale.
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« Reply #171 on: March 23, 2012, 08:11:17 am »

Hence the purpose of this thread, for us to grow as writers! :D

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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #172 on: March 23, 2012, 10:05:52 am »

Oh...oh my goodness. A heap of more stories.

Joy! :))

But, alas, I cannot post up the critique again today (sorry for those who've been looking forward to it), but reminding again, anyone can criticize other's work. Even if you're new, it doesn't matter as questioning will help understand what you may see wrong in writing stories.
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« Reply #173 on: March 23, 2012, 06:20:21 pm »

Damn, 2 pages in this thread since yesterday!

I was experimenting with using dialogue to characterize and reveal as much as possible, but was wondering if it turned out any good. I'm not sure if it was a good idea to have used it as a writing sample for the application, though. Just a setting idea I'd been playing around with and wanted to try out. Is it worth expanding this story, or should I do something else with the setting?

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« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2012, 07:16:01 pm »

HELLLLLOOOO, It's been sooo long, hopefully some of you remember may (only 4 pages ago I guess) Anyways my last post was about a story where the US had regressed into a state of feudalism and I've continued with the idea. It's entirely descriptive (cause shit needs to be defined) and no dialogue as of yet, but should serve as a good idea as to what im aiming at (which is a mix of 1800s politics, medieval ideas and combat, and modern technology.) Also I should probably mention, some terms will prolly be weird as i'm still tryin' to work that out, also some redundancy if I missed some stuff.
Please critique and enjoy:

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As of yet there is no diaogue, obviously, but please do comment on the concepts.

P.S. I'm so glad this thread is finally pickin' up some more speed!
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« Reply #175 on: March 27, 2012, 08:37:55 am »

Please critique and enjoy:

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This is as much a request for comments as it is a comment on your writing, but I've taken your first paragraph here (the description of Sir Gerald) and re-written it in a way that I feel flows better.

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What do you think, Urist? Neutral third parties?
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« Reply #176 on: March 27, 2012, 09:50:49 am »

I think it's beautiful, more when i get home to properly respond
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« Reply #177 on: March 27, 2012, 01:24:53 pm »

Well. I decided I'd write something so somebody could read it and give me something to work with.
Hence why...
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And, before anyone reads, just a few points:
a) I didn't re-read it. So I guess there will be spelling mistakes;
b) English is not my first language. So be harsh. I want to learn;
c) there is little dialogue, because there is no point it.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #178 on: March 27, 2012, 01:35:45 pm »

Sir Gerald reminded to some of a bull at Spanish bullfighting. He was large, flashily-dressed and dangerous. He sported a bright red cape and spotless white gloves, and wore a ceremonial sword that he was famous to handle well. Moreover, known to him and maybe to the archbishop's spies, hidden in the back of his right boot was a silver dagger reserved for his most dangerous foes...
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« Reply #179 on: March 27, 2012, 02:22:32 pm »

Lol, my first paragrah seems to be popular to modify (did you guys even read the rest???) everyone should take a shot!
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