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« Reply #150 on: March 23, 2012, 12:48:58 am »

Same here. I was described by a very drunk friend as "An old man in a young man's body... A victorian gentleman... and that's a compliment..."


The writing industry itself is pretty nasty though. With your writing style unfortunately I feel that unless you could write a piece that captures the publisher's imagination, you would be doomed to write speeches and formal writing.

Because unfortunately, for all publishers can bring a story to life, they will rip the unholy life out of your book and dumb it down if you are approached by the wrong publisher.

That being said, it's good to start small and work your way up; what i've seen is that changing your style gradually often surprises critics.

<--- Did a two year writing course, has multiple contacts in the Australian publishing industry, no responses from publishers as yet though. :P

I'd actually consider writing speeches and such. I write for fun, really. I have some pretty screwed-up historic issues that my writing helps me deal with. Writing is and always will be my life's passion, but it is a passion I engage in for my own pleasure and sanity.

I came to terms long ago with the fact that a publisher would absolutely shit on my writing. :P



Anyway, how about you post something of yours for me to critique? =)
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« Reply #151 on: March 23, 2012, 12:52:18 am »

Some of my writing can be found in my sig, or I can have a look at my folio. Which would you prefer?

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« Reply #152 on: March 23, 2012, 12:52:42 am »

Same here. I was described by a very drunk friend as "An old man in a young man's body... A victorian gentleman... and that's a compliment..."

Jesus... are you guys... me?

Apparently this forum attracts a lot of the same types.

Yes, yes it does. I have a Skype group of Bay12ers and players from Bay12-related games who are all like us. Each of us is extremely different in a thousand different ways, but that same aura of inquisitive intellectualism and older-than-you-seem personality shines brightly.

All of my friends are that way, actually, though we all deal with it in different ways. Me, I'm the wise old Sage type. People always come to me for relationship and personal advice, and I was known in high school as the human encyclopedia and-or 'The therapist'. (Useless information, ho!)

Sadly, no one ever listens to the wise old sages and most will rather quickly confuse him for a crazy old geezer. ;)
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« Reply #153 on: March 23, 2012, 12:56:29 am »

'Folio would be quite nice, actually.

Some of my writing is on my deviantart page, though that's barely a fickle half-percentile of what I've written in the last decade. I had my notes and laptop stolen four years ago which cost me an entire high-fantasy novel series I had been writing. Looking back on it though, I must say good riddance; it was shit anyway.

http://maximilian-aurea.deviantart.com/

I haven't updated the damn thing in years, though I still add new poetry and such to it. I lost my old account two years ago so I simply copy+pasted the same junk over to the new one and kept it as-is.

Oh, and regarding the Chaotic Origins design - I finished that thing years ago but I never updated the image.
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« Reply #154 on: March 23, 2012, 01:06:27 am »

A lot of what I had written was on my 3.1 when its RAM got scrambled, so the earliest writing of mine I possess in electronic form dates to 2003 and is abysmally awful.

However, I'm going to show you all a cathartic piece I wrote in late 2010 about my experiences in suburbia as a redhead. :P Some rude words, beware. I wasn't sure of the title, but it was shocky and grabbed people's attention. Plus, it worked to build a sense of anger and outrage. It's just a short story, rather unfinished, but I liked writing it (the rush of happiness after i had gotten my anger at those who would be racist out was intense) and the group who critiqued it had several interesting reactions; my teacher who was a seasoned writer compared it with his experiences growing up as a northern englishman in southern england, one of the other students who was the father of the redhead got very angry (towards the people who do such a thing - apparently it invigorated him to pursue his daughter's school all the more, she was a redhead too).

I ended it very hastily because I had to get it in to the course by a deadline; but it was still a good enough piece. :P

Enough talk though, here it is!

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« Reply #155 on: March 23, 2012, 01:20:36 am »

Excuse my language, but fucking scumbags. I got the same treating for being Dutch-Brazilian. I was treated like a worthless punching-bag by Brazilians for not being one of them, and ignored by the white folk for being part Hispanic.

One funny thing is that I eventually met all of my bullies again after a few years, and all were docile. Of the dozens, every single one had come from a broken, abusive family. All they really did was echo the same abuse they witnessed and often received, as is natural for a victim of some sort of abuse.

It doesn't justify a decade of verbal and physical abuse, but it made me feel better to know how pathetic they all truly were.

Humans fear what they do not understand. Just the same, any animal will exile a member of the pack who does not identify physically with them. This means those with different-colored eyes or hair, those of a different race, those with disabilities, all of these individuals will be ridiculed and abused for their qualities. As much as it sickens me, I understand the natural survival instinct that drives such behavior. This natural reaction to what is different is then catalyzed by personal difficulties and cultural stigma, which obviously leads to folks like me and you being given a hell of a time for absolutely no logical reason.

Oh well, its made us stronger as human beings.
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« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2012, 01:24:33 am »

Alright, here's a turn from the Liberal Crime Squad Let's Play I'm running right now. This was turn 05, I believe.

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« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2012, 01:32:32 am »

Yeah. I'm Dutch-English/Australian - because of my small eyes, pale skin and red hair it was often assumed (especially in known bogan areas) that I was an immigrant from Holland, because pretty much everybogan thinks that an Australian has to be blonde/pale brown haired, tanned and round eyed.

I used to console myself by the whole "It's because they're descended largely from the lowest of the low members of England that they have a race memory of fearing redheads, with the whole raids on England and the Danelaw of the Vikings."

That was tenuous at best, and I ended up coming out of highschool with a poor score and cripplingly severe depression (to the point of suicidal thoughts) - but now that I am in uni I have returned to being (to quote my parents) "The inquisitive, charming person" I once was.

And yeah, I agree with that... being of mixed-race can be pretty nasty sometimes. From what I've heard anyway.
My dad's best mate's family (who refer to me as お兄ちゃん / anichan / dear older brother) are half australian of scottish descent, half japanese. In Australia, especially out in the sticks where they live, the family are often met with grumpiness and general rudeness unless the Australian father is present, whereas in Japan most people seem to consider them as curios - that is, rare things one doesn't see often.

People are always afraid of that which is different. That one sentence caused a lot of my mental issues (some still standing, most gone) throughout late childhood and all of teenage.

Anyway, some brighter stuff now!

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« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2012, 01:37:16 am »

Aye, I utterly murdered my scores/grades and had to deal with terrible depression and severe anxiety disorders due in part to bullying, though mostly personal and familial issues.

But aye, POSITIVE ENERGY, HOOOOO!

(After my not-so-positive RP moment, which I feel was pretty damn epic if I may say so myself)
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« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2012, 01:49:06 am »

Here's a brighter piece I wrote. I wrote it for fun, then converted it into a short play/film script. The film script is much more finished but more difficult to post here. Note that those who self-describe as Furries may find it offensive; but this is not MY view on them, this is the CHARACTER's.

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« Reply #160 on: March 23, 2012, 02:00:37 am »

Heh! Very curious, indeed!
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« Reply #161 on: March 23, 2012, 02:57:27 am »

Did you want to see the script? While it's far closer to being finished, it's still pretty short. :P

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« Reply #162 on: March 23, 2012, 03:17:40 am »

Its 4 AM and I can't give you any proper criticism because I can barely count to 20 at this point, but I'd nonetheless be honored to give it a look, if its not too much for for you. =)

Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of my RP writing I posted earlier? I've yet to have someone give me criticism on how I write my RPs, so it'd be quite useful to know if I'm bombing or not.
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« Reply #163 on: March 23, 2012, 03:32:35 am »

I liked it a lot, even though I have next to no background in LCS. It was witty, in a very cynical way, as I suppose all characters in LCS are - and at times strongly parodical, which of course LCS is.

With the exception of a few spelling errors, I found it a great read, and i was chuckling under my breath as I read it.

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« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2012, 04:10:36 am »

I liked it a lot, even though I have next to no background in LCS. It was witty, in a very cynical way, as I suppose all characters in LCS are - and at times strongly parodical, which of course LCS is.

With the exception of a few spelling errors, I found it a great read, and i was chuckling under my breath as I read it.

*gasp!*

Spelling errors!? Where!?

Damn, that's what I get for staying up for days at a time. I decided I'd take it easy this week and just relax. I've been playing games 'til early morn' then sleeping in. First time I've been able to do so in a long, long time, and probably the last time as well, so I'm taking advantage of this period to get in my RP writing and just enjoy myself.

Wow. See? 5:09 AM and I've upgraded to epic run-on sentences! =)

Seriously though, what spelling mistakes? :\

EDIT: Besides sheppard/shepperd/shep-something. I still can't figure that one out.
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