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[GI Jesus]

Hey I'm getting really really slow speeds while playing this game, whereas I've played it fine on a friends computer that had much less RAM and a lower CPU speed.  Heres some info grabbed from a DXDiag I just took.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/4/2007, 23:09:54
      Machine name: FASTESTASS-RAM
  Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
          Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
      System Model: System Product Name
              BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/03/05 15:32:49 Ver: 08.00.09
         Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.4GHz
            Memory: 2048MB RAM
         Page File: 325MB used, 3104MB available
       Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
   DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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       Card name: RADEON 9800 XT
    Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
       Chip type: RADEON 9800 XT AGP (0x4E4A)
        DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
      Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4A&SUBSYS_10021002&REV_00
  Display Memory: 256.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
         Monitor: Dell M781s
 Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200

[Veroule]

I have seen some rather nasty problems using OpenGL with ATI cards.  I would suggest that the slow speeds you are getting is a result of a driver problem.  I would reccommend looking up the Omega ATI drivers that are appropiate to the 9800 card.  As I understand it the Omega series of drivers are produced by an employee of ATI, but are not officially sanctioned by ATI.

[Jifodus]

I can't see anything visibly wrong.  I assume you've already checked for VSYNCH set to off in the init file.

Can you post the driver information?

Oh, and when you say "slow speed"?

[GI Jesus]

I get around 2~4fps, and that's looking at a rather empty portion of my fort, usually it's quite bad though.

I downloaded and installed the omegadrivers.net ATI 9x00 series driver, it works fine for everything EXCEPT dwarf fortress.  I tried looking for the VSYNCH in the init file but I couldn't find it.  Although, i'm quite tired right now and am about to go to sleep.  I'll look at it again tomorrow.

Thank you for your advice, any more info would be greatly appreciated.

[Veroule]

The VSYNCH isn't the problem.  That is actually a graphics control that causes the frame rate to maxed at your monitors refresh rate.

Having 2-4 FPS still sounds like a graphics driver issue.  About all I can suggest to do is download many different versions of drivers that are tested to support your card.  Then UNINSTALL your current drivers and install another version.  Make absolutely sure you do an uninstall each time or Windows will end up with stupid mix ups.  Even then Windows may keep some data around from each version you try.

[GI Jesus]

This is getting stupid.  I've tried three different sets of drivers and none of them have made a difference.  I've reinstalled the game several times and I've started a new game to see if it was my fortress, but I still get 5~10 fps.  I've played the game at full speeds and it's a very fun game and I enjoy it very much but I just can't get it to run properly.

[GI Jesus]

Woo double post!

So, could it be a motherboard issue?  Some driver I haven't installed?  Recently my motherboard broke and fried my video card so I had to get old hand me downs from friends, and I would really have to reformat my hard drive, so I just hooked it up and it ran fine with just the driver disk for the onboard stuff.

I'm not currently posting from my computer but I'll post the motherboard specs later today.

[Tormy]

Try out different drivers. If all of them are slow, its a hardware problem probably.

[GI Jesus]

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHz
2048MB RAM
RADEON 9800 XT AGP 256 MB

That can't run Dwarf Fortress?  And this isn't a problem exclusive to me, I've tested about 7 computers now, three have run this game at abysmal speeds despite being systems fully capable of running the game.  I was surprised when a computer with a 1.5ghz CPU, 256MB of RAM and a 64MB video card ran it at speeds comparable to a Dual Core my friend owns.

[utunnels]

Yeah, 1.8GHz CPU/256MB ram and 12-16 fps for me.

[Xgamer4]

I can think of no reason your computer can't run it. These are the specs of my laptop:
AMD Athlon 64x2 Processor 1.6GHz
1024MB RAM
Radeon X1100

And I average around 20-30 FPS with a decent sized fort.

[ August 11, 2007: Message edited by: Xgamer4 ]

[Bien]

quote:Originally posted by GI Jesus:
<STRONG>AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHz
2048MB RAM
RADEON 9800 XT AGP 256 MB

That can't run Dwarf Fortress?  And this isn't a problem exclusive to me, I've tested about 7 computers now, three have run this game at abysmal speeds despite being systems fully capable of running the game.  I was surprised when a computer with a 1.5ghz CPU, 256MB of RAM and a 64MB video card ran it at speeds comparable to a Dual Core my friend owns.</STRONG>

You got that right, my computer is a 1.7 Ghz Pentium 4, Intel Brookdale G running on 2001/2002 drivers 64 Mb, 4 Gb RAM and it runs on 20/to 25 FPS as well as every game I play.

[ August 11, 2007: Message edited by: Bien ]

[Eagle of Fire]

I have a roughly 2gig hertz machine, with a 128 megs video card and I think about a thousand ram... I run every game at a max of 60FPS all the time.

When my forts get very busy, it usually crawl down to around 20...

Edit: and I just tryied the game on another computer. The intro play pretty fast at 100 FPS!

[ August 11, 2007: Message edited by: Eagle of Fire ]

[Lightman]

I've had some issues with speed, too.

One thing to check is the 3D settings for your video (for example, if you are using NVidia it is "image settings" and you can adjust between "Performance" and "Quality").

On my computer changing the slider from "Quality" to "Performance" doubles the framerate from 20-25 to 40-50. This is using a fort with around 70 dwarves with temperature and weather turned on.

This clearly seems to be an effect of using OpenGL. I haven't yet found the setting (or settings) that make the biggest impact, but I think this could be submitted as a bug or suggestion for change. There might be something in the OpenGL initialisation that could be adjusted.

Toady?

[EDIT]
Oh, and changing to fullscreen also increased speed by around 5fps... Hmmm... seems like a graphics issue.

[ August 15, 2007: Message edited by: Lightman ]

[Eagle of Fire]

Please read this thread.

I could post it here but I'm lazy.