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Do you want your dwarves to have normal physiological urge?

Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo all the tons of stuff (s)he eats..once in a while
- 10 (6.1%)
Yes I want my dwarves to need to have sex without calving like a bunny
- 17 (10.3%)
Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo AND have impregnation-less sex every now and then.. not necessarily at the same time
- 41 (24.8%)
Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo AND have impregnation-less sex every now and then.. EVEN at the same time (perversion++)
- 17 (10.3%)
No I'm ok without 'em EVER pooing AND having sex only ONCE per child
- 80 (48.5%)

Total Members Voted: 165

Voting closed: February 15, 2012, 06:08:04 pm


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DrPoo

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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #120 on: January 25, 2012, 03:47:54 pm »

Poo is a fantastic thing and i dont know what i would do without it.
I mean imagine not being able to poo, eventually you would either explode or puke it all out, wich would be even more disgusting.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #121 on: January 25, 2012, 03:52:09 pm »

Maybe, the dwarves simply have an extremely efficient digestive system? Their bodies use up everything put into it, meaning there is nothing left to excrete in the first place.

Personally I wish things worked like that in real life. Imagine all the time you could save...

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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #122 on: January 25, 2012, 04:43:20 pm »

Maybe, the dwarves simply have an extremely efficient digestive system? Their bodies use up everything put into it, meaning there is nothing left to excrete in the first place.

SUPER METABOLISM

Seriously, these guys can live off booze and roasted frozen booze alone. I'd say they're just awesome like that.

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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #123 on: January 25, 2012, 05:01:10 pm »

I don't want dwarf fortress to be half about dealing with shit. which is exactly what this suggestion would do to the game. (seeing goonstation players in here honestly doesn't reinforce the 'for' side of the argument.)
I don't see how goonstation players affect your game... unless you are one yourself.

For example, you designate a defecation zone. If it's in a river, preferably downstream your drinking zone. If it's in the woods, you might need to zone a new one once every five years if your population is large. You might have more dwarves annoyed by flies. But that's about it: no more than you need to do to to provide water, just in the reverse, and similarly with the option to dig a well, but in the reverse. Most importantly, you'd get the option to build a compost pile building, that spontaneously deconstructs into a few items of fertilizer after a four or five months (automated like render fat would be nice). It really wouldn't be much more than this in a basic form. I'd prefer to add the liquid, for the tanner and various chemical applications, too.

goonstation thing was a poke at the largest community of assholes in SS13, who singlehandedly ruined it, roughly akin to minecraft griefers.

but ANYWAYS, it is not so much i would not like the feature, but i want it AFTER other inside threats are more fleshed out.

with current DF you would have. 3% food, 7% nobles 10% happiness, 30% engineering fuckups, 50% shit to clean up as your internal conflicts.
if more stuff was added, and other features re-balanced you would get a situation where this idea becomes a wonderful implementation.

however, I would prefer it be implemented in a slightly less intrusive manner, as the ideas in this thread would make it a main focus of your fortress. realistic? yes. fun? no.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #124 on: January 25, 2012, 05:13:03 pm »

goonstation thing was a poke at the largest community of assholes in SS13, who singlehandedly ruined it, roughly akin to minecraft griefers.
Please check this kind of thing at the door. I'm fairly certain nobody came here to read about your dislike of some people on the internets.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #125 on: January 25, 2012, 05:14:59 pm »

Apparently the poo problem lies with the community, not the game, with or without feces. Why aren't you complaining also about the people killing traders for fun, or farming merfolk for profit? Because that's exactly the same phenomenon.
I think you misunderstood. I wasn't complaining... I think this community is hilarious and fantastic.
Yet you argue against manure because of what the community would do with it?
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #126 on: January 25, 2012, 05:19:32 pm »

goonstation thing was a poke at the largest community of assholes in SS13, who singlehandedly ruined it, roughly akin to minecraft griefers.
Please check this kind of thing at the door. I'm fairly certain nobody came here to read about your dislike of some people on the internets.

i just explained my reasoning to someone who questioned why i mentioned it offhand initially. that is all. however did you not just derail the thread further by exclusively pointing out a side point of it, instead of responding to the main idea? so just drop it for the sake of the thread.

also, a small idea about this. it would be great if pipes were implemented as fluid carriers, making a functioning plumping system that didn't result in job cancellation spam when digging on the floor under it.
this way we could actually build a functioning waste disposal system, possibly dropping it into a unused cavern lake.
(can we talk about ways this can be helpfully implemented instead of just arguing IF it should be implemented.)
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #127 on: January 25, 2012, 05:25:26 pm »

Apparently the poo problem lies with the community, not the game, with or without feces. Why aren't you complaining also about the people killing traders for fun, or farming merfolk for profit? Because that's exactly the same phenomenon.
I think you misunderstood. I wasn't complaining... I think this community is hilarious and fantastic.
Yet you argue against manure because of what the community would do with it?
When did I do that? Really, point it out. I was just pointing out humorous posts which would result from this being implemented. I made my stance on the subject clear in my earlier post...

Really I wouldn't mind if Toady implemented body waste in some way. I also wouldn't care if he never did. I'd rather he spend his time on something actually interesting though.

I don't care either way, really but I'd much prefer he work on something more interesting.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #128 on: January 25, 2012, 06:59:04 pm »

Really I wouldn't mind if Toady implemented body waste in some way. I also wouldn't care if he never did. I'd rather he spend his time on something actually interesting though.

I don't care either way, really but I'd much prefer he work on something more interesting.

kind of my stance on it, as a possible much later addition after things get done that are better, bugs get fixed, dwarfs are more interesting characters. THEN lets add the 'nice details'.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #129 on: January 25, 2012, 10:48:49 pm »

What exactly do you think your dwarves are doing when they're "On Break" ?
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #130 on: January 26, 2012, 12:06:05 pm »

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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #131 on: January 26, 2012, 12:39:12 pm »

What exactly do you think your dwarves are doing when they're "On Break" ?
Well I hope it's not pooping because mine spend their on-break time standing on the dining room tables.
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #132 on: January 26, 2012, 02:13:58 pm »

What exactly do you think your dwarves are doing when they're "On Break" ?
Well I hope it's not pooping because mine spend their on-break time standing on the dining room tables.
I always assumed they were on break.

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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #133 on: January 26, 2012, 10:59:47 pm »

is the thought of them having sex on the dining room table any better?
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Re: Why dwarves do not poo or have (almost) no sex?
« Reply #134 on: January 27, 2012, 01:16:27 am »

is the thought of them having sex on the dining room table any better?

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