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[joihnsonlee]

i wish u could play directly from 3d view

for example when u want to mine u click on the 3d view.

but all means it doesn't mean u have to not use the orginal 2d program.

[dwarfhoplite]

It has been suggested no less than two hundred times.

[Footkerchief]

Integrated 3D graphics are frequently suggested.  Please search before posting.

[joihnsonlee]

but are the creators going to do anything about it?


and have they finshed making all the sprites?

also when will they finish making the 4 versioin?

[Loud Whispers]

Please search before posting.

This is easy to find information :d

Also, what do you mean by the 4 version, or sprites?

[Knight Otu]

It kind of sounds like you are talking about a third-party visualizer (probably Stonesense? Isometric view, and the only visualizer I'm aware of that's somewhat kept up to date) as if it was part of Dwarf Fortress proper. It isn't (no matter which one you're actually using). In case you are talking about Stonesense, I seem to remember that the devs of that program didn't want to create an alternate user interface to DF proper.

3d DF, as noted, has been suggested several times, but such a suggestion faces significant hurdles. An official isometric view as per Stonesense may be easier to implement, but it also faces the lack of proper graphics.

[Footkerchief]

but are the creators going to do anything about it?


and have they finshed making all the sprites?

also when will they finish making the 4 versioin?

The creators of Dwarf Fortress (Tarn and Zach Adams, a.k.a. Bay 12 Games) don't make sprites.  There are no current plans to add 3D graphics, although full 2D sprite graphics may get support in the next few years or so.

[Starver]

There was an experimental 3D-ish view in... version 40d, wasn't it?  Not there in .31/DF2010, though.  But (and not everyone agrees on this approach, but I think most people accept the decision, or at least work within it without much of a grumble) the development team (or, by another count, individual) is concentrating upon content, mechanics, flavour, etc, as a priority over 'mere' aesthetics.

You know The Matrix?  You know how a skilled Operator can 'see through the code' to the woman in the red dress?  Well, it's not anything like as hard as that appears to be to get a decent mental 3D image from the 'raw' (or alternate tilesetted) 2D slices of your Fortress.  In fact, I would imagine that this is as good (or better) as one of those mental-workout things they keep putting on gameboy-type things, but with much more entertainment.  And it's just like how you get to Carnegie Hall...  Practice!

[Urist McDagger]

There was an experimental 3D-ish view in... version 40d, wasn't it?

Armok 1.

[Knight Otu]

No, it was in DF itself. It was removed for the 31.01 release at the latest (possibly earlier). It was rather barebones, really.

[Starver]

No, it was in DF itself. It was removed for the 31.01 release at the latest (possibly earlier). It was rather barebones, really.

Yep, smooth vector-shaded monochrome polygons representing horizontal surfaces of various kinds (maybe ramps?, maybe not) and it was nice, but incomplete.  Nothing like Stonesense.  Plus it wasn't realtime (IIRC), but everything was paused.  Plus no attempt to put any textures, sprites or anything else to indicate things (and beings) upon the structure.

Still, I liked it.  It gave some sense of perspective (almost literally!).  But I'm sure even without it I would have attained my current Zen-like ability to mentally picture the 3D landscape from successively viewing the various 2D slices and layers...  And I think the OP will be able to, also, once he gets some practice in.

[joihnsonlee]

i was talking about stonesense

i heard from youtube they haven't finished making the sprites.(they just have question marks on the objects with no sprites)

so do they have nameson the question marks to say what it is?

and when are they going to make version 4

[Footkerchief]

The Stonesense thread is here.  You should probably take these questions there.

[RabidAnubis]

Integrated 3D graphics are frequently suggested.  Please search before posting.

Fookerchief, the unoffical moderator.

But seriously, this has been so overly suggested it gets annoying.  Give the poor amphibian a break!