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JTTCOTE

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No goblins...
« on: January 13, 2012, 04:45:03 am »

Its spring of my fourth year and I still have had no sign of goblins, except for a thief (Who came immediately after a wave of migrants while a child they brought along was walking into the base so it was stolen and everyone was sad). When I press c a goblin civilization pops up and I am apparently at peace. Will they ever invade and if not, how can I piss them off so they do? That's the funnest part of dwarf fortress I'm missing!
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 06:11:28 am »

Did you...somehow edit the Raws in the raw folder or anything?

And if you are at peace, do you encounter their trade caravans at winter?
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 06:13:03 am »

Bah, edited out. 504 gateway timeout  :-\
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 06:22:50 am by Tiruin »
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 08:26:52 am »

When I press c a goblin civilization pops up and I am apparently at peace.

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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 08:37:10 am »

So, what if you wait for one of their caravans and initiate some fun?
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Tiruin

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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 08:58:52 am »

About those caravans, I heard read from the wiki that those goblins send 'em if at peace.

I do doubt that though, even if it shows "Peace", if you check the entities screen pre-embark, Goblins have the -------- , meaning that they are hostile to your race.

No matter what you do.
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 09:11:30 am »

I've got the goblin civilization showing as "P" in the 'c' screen, too, however they've sent two ambushes at me regardless, so I think that might be a bug. It's your fourth year, but what is your population and are you producing any value?
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 09:16:22 am »

If they are actually at peace with you, they will send caravans every season except winter after the first dwarven caravan. They don't generally send thieves when you are at peace though. More likely, you need to produce more wealth to get the real deal. Right now you aren't worth an ambush or siege, apparently.
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 09:19:47 am »

If they do send caravans, they will trade regardless of any goods. That is, only if they are at True Peace.

Back on topic.

Other than the question (Did you edit your raws?), do you have [INVADERS:YES] in the data>init>d_init set?
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 09:54:39 am »

Chances are they're at peace with whatever civ is selected on the screen. So they might be at peace with the elves for example and still hate your ugly dwarven guts.
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 11:03:11 am »

Goblins pretty much always show up as "P" in the civ screen, but if you view their details and the imports/exports are Terror/Vengeance, they're definitely hostile.
It's possible for your civilization to be formally at war with the goblins, in which case it will show up that way during embark (instead of the red "--------") and they'll supposedly send sieges much earlier.
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Re: No goblins...
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 01:31:21 pm »

There are regions-biomes on random maps without Goblins, present, you know? 

Never a region without a Mountainhome, however.  You may have to piss off another Civ.  Humans or Elfs to get FUN!  Or just keep digging down to get it.

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