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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2012, 08:06:47 am »

I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.

Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.

I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.

It doesn't matter how good they are at teamwork (Bee-ball aside).  There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets.  With the way the hornets go at the bees, I doubt they'd survive long enough to evolve their own bee-ball, probably just go extinct in that area.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2012, 08:10:57 am »

I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.

Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.

I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.

Biological? No.

Entomological warfare? YES :D :D :D

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2012, 09:34:47 am »

Also, Slurm:
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Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.

Let me get this straight...they made a drink that contains juices from a giant hornet's favorite snack? There is no way this can possibly go wrong.

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2012, 10:22:35 am »

*after watching this video, Tellemurius made the notion to always carry a big ass can of WD-40 and his lighter whenever he visits Asia again.*

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2012, 10:29:58 am »

*after watching this video, Tellemurius made the notion to always carry a big ass can of WD-40 and his lighter whenever he visits Asia again.*
OI! YOU'RE BURNING THE ECO-SYSTEM!

Now quiet down and take your hornet nest to the face like a manly man. Of manliness.

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2012, 12:03:36 pm »

There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets.
They could cut their wings off I guess.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2012, 12:12:01 pm »

There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets.
They could cut their wings off I guess.
Whilst it's underneath their carapace? This isn't Dorf Fortress, so no The bee bites the hornet in the eye from behind!

Though I admit that would be amazing if someone broke mother nature like that.

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2012, 12:30:16 pm »

Hornets can't fold their wings under carapace. You're thinking of beetles.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2012, 12:30:52 pm »

Hornets can't fold their wings under carapace. You're thinking of beetles.

Point's still valid when they're eating your head :d

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2012, 12:33:08 pm »

They can only eat one head at a time and there's 1k bees for every hornet.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2012, 12:37:56 pm »

They can only eat one head at a time and there's 1k bees for every hornet.

Hornets are built to kill bees. And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL. Besides, what do you do when your hordes of peasants can't kill the Bronze Colossus?

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2012, 12:58:50 pm »

And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL.

I? What? That is exactly what this is.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2012, 01:00:41 pm »

It's in thread's title for Pete's sake.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2012, 01:05:08 pm »

And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL.

I? What? That is exactly what this is.

Me being stupid :p

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2012, 01:14:22 pm »

Also, Slurm:
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Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.

I can't be the only one around here wondering what it would be like to buy a whole bunch of that stuff and just feed it directly to the hornets  :D
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