ToonyMan:I think he's just being too happy with himself. Whether it's from playing around with you and convincing himself he got you good or you're actually scum and he's on to something are two different things. I can't say I agree with his methods but I think they work. Heck I've done it in past games as town even if it's a way to get some people to hate you, especially the target of the trick.
He's refusing to explain himself, though, despite doing and saying some very questionable things. It doesn't do any good to find out scum by enraging them if their rage is entirely justified and you make yourself look like scum in the process.
On that note, what do you think of his claim about his knowledge of my kill?
You're being stubborn because you keep butting heads with Webadict over the same issue. You need to approach a different way or do something else, well do that or wait and see I guess. But wait and seeing isn't a town-move. Anyway, being stubborn can hurt because you end up shitting up the thread with words words words words and it gives nervous town and mafia the perfect opportunity to sit back and watch the show.
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm butting heads with him over the same issue because he won't explain it satisfactorily. I'm not sure what other approach I could try when he flatly refuses to explain something I find suspicious.
webadict:I did address your post. Your post has no solid facts, proof, or a real argument, and you have admitted that. The fact that it sucks as much as you is not surprising.
Not only that, but your flat refusal to defend yourself is scummy. You have lied. This is proven. Do I need to show you? Alright, why don't you just lie back and I'll show you. You're good at that.
Another prime example of slinging shit. If I've admitted to my post being utterly worthless, maybe you should quote me? Might that be a useful example for myself and others to see?
But no, because it never happened. Also, "this is proven" is technically a lie as well, since it wasn't at the time of writing that. You're bad at this.
Lying about your role to out someone you didn't suspect
This is a lie. Right here! I never ONCE claimed to be a Watchman. That was you rolefishing. You were rolefishing the entire time.
True! I did just assume that. Of course, since the alternatives were that you just happened to guess correctly, and did so to test out someone you didn't actually suspect, or that your buddy who's got the role told you, I don't see how this was an unreasonable assumption. Even if I had assumed you were scum from the very start, I don't see why I'd have assumed you were that ballsy or suicidal.
So yes, it's untrue, but it's blatantly obvious why I would assume it is. The fact that you, once again, fail utterly to explain why it's supposed to be scummy confirms this.
As for the rolefishing, that's yet more bullshit. I feel like I should start numbering these or something. There's two very obvious reasons why.
For starters, I've already explained why I had no reason to assume you weren't an actioncop, which the notion of rolefishing obviously requires. So, this pretty much fails right here.
But even if that wasn't enough, you've provided a very nice secondary reason why it clearly wasn't rolefishing- you didn't mention it as such until very recently. If I'd really been rolefishing you this entire time, there'd have been no real reason not for you to call me out on it as well. You didn't, so we can safely surmise that this is yet more bullshit you came up with after the fact.
Dropping the issue until they attack you
Honestly, you were the one freaking out over claiming yourself. The fact that you continually OMGUS me is a fact that you're a whiny whore, and I'm surprised you're so easy. To trick.
The "freaking out"
and OMGUSing you're referring to is attacking you over this.
Refusing to answer questions
Oh boy! Not only is this an argument against me in EVERY SINGLE GAME EVER, it's also the stupidest one. It's basically for those people that believe their questions are so magnificent that they must be answered, but usually they're not. Show me a question of relevance that I didn't answer.
That could take a while. Answering everything in the post before you shrugged and said "lololol I don't even have a role" would be more thorough.
Slinging bullshit
Right. Doesn't provide quotes for this because it never happened. Instead, instavotes me after I claim townie because he got tricked.
webadict complaining about a lack of quotes. Hoo boy. If you'd like actual quotes I can certainly provide them, but I think this is yet more slinging bullshit. If it wasn't, you'd probably be fonder of the tactic yourself.
The second sentence, on the other hand, is a superb and definite example. The notion that it was an "instavote" is fairly laughable in itself, given that I'd not only been attacking you and informing you that I was displeased with your horseshit earlier, but I'd actually stated that I wasn't far from voting you.
The notion that I did so because I got tricked is arguably even stupider. I mean, for one thing, I've been over why your not having a role pretty much guarantees you as scum anyway, so even if it was based on that one post, "you're scum" would be a much more likely reason than "I dun been tricked!" Additionally, that also happened to be the post where you gave up any pretense of defending yourself and said "lololololol i trikt u!", which was the actual main reason. Do I need to explain why that's not townlike behavior?
I've found a scumadict. I'm sure your actioncop buddy appreciates taking the fall for him.
You've found jack squat. The fact that you THINK you found me is laughable at best, and you're really just getting on your knees and hoping you're right.
I shouldn't even respond to this because it's a waste of space, but I can't help but notice the votecount.
Have fun with that.Wait, what? Bolded for emphasis; did you just admit that you think I'm town or something?
Hehehe...
Man, you are such a liar.
You can tell how much someone pays attention by their words. You see, there's a multitude of lies in here.
First of all, kills are a good indication of mafia. This is a fact, and indisputable. Go ahead and try.
Second of all, he never claimed who he killed, and yet blames me for claiming vigilante.
Third, a 50%ish chance someone is scum is GOOD ODDS. In fact, better odds than most people. Prove that wrong.
Fourth, he was using my reasoning as a defense for him killing, which is NOT a good reason. He then turns this around on me, because apparently if I wanted Glyph dead, that means it's alright for Irony to have no other reason to kill him.
Fifth, you were tricked. You just love tricks. You perform them on a daily basis, I'm sure.
Sixth, you OMGUSed me. Nice try trying to make it sound like I OMGUSed you.
Seventh, I don't swear.
Eighth, you are the one that has ignored every single argument except your own.
Ninth, do you even listen to yourself? Though, I suppose that's tough to do with your mouth full. Have to make money somehow, eh?
Tenth, you have yet to counter my arguments. Probably because you can't.
-First point is neither disputed nor relevant.
-Secondly, another example of shit-slinging. I did claim who I killed, and while I didn't immediately claim them by name at first, I'm thinking my reaction got the message across. I do blame you for my claiming vigilante, because you outed me. What was I supposed to do, lie and say you were lying? That'd have been really fucking townlike and productive. Really, your attempt to paint that incident as me claiming all on my own and then blaming you for it is scummy as fuck.
-Third point is true, but is likewise irrelevant, as it assumes it was one or the other. We've been over this. Or at least we've been over this up to the point where you start making funny noises at me.
-Fourth is partially an answer to itself, partially a deflection, and partially a lie. As it turns out, I did use your reasoning (among others) to select my kill. I've also explained this already, so there's no particular reason for you to be asking it again. I actually answered it again in more detail later when you asked about it anyway, along with questioning why you asked that. Needless to say, you responded with a trollface and UMAD?
It's also a deflection, as this wasn't a problem for you until I attacked you. You unvoted me and everything.
-Fifth, either this was a scumtrick or both scummy and unimaginably lucky. I have no issue with it either way. I mean, obviously I think it makes you scum, but I don't think there was any other way I should have reacted.
-Sixth point is another amusing example of shit flinging. You unvoted me and dropped the issue, I attacked you over it, you suddenly decide it's an issue after all. I pressured you, you more or less admitted to being scum and refused to answer my questions, instead opting to honk your nosehorn at me. Then you resume making long offensive posts, just not defensive ones, and vote me, claiming you're voting me for OMGUS-voting you just a moment ago. Which of these sound like OMGUSes again?
-Seventh point is true I guess, but the mindless antagonism in lieu of substance fits conceptually, I think.
-Eight point is lolno.
-Tenth point was because I thought we were done using words and I was just going to lynch you for being scum. Or wait, no, I ignored that because it's worthless. WOW! That is easier than explaining myself. Cool!
Leafsnail:IronyOwl: You can either agree to follow the town consensus on who to kill at night or you will be lynched. Otherwise you could keep performing scum kills normally. Understand? Kicking up a fuss with webadict will not allow you to slink away and not follow the town consensus.
This sounds like you don't think I'm a vig. Do you think I'm a vig?