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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #135 on: January 30, 2012, 09:13:23 am »

Now I see many are already suspecting me of being scum.

@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.

I'm not nervous or afraid. I'm not afraid of the lynch nor am I any role that would benefit of such. If any of you expect me to back away because of fear, well, I'm proving that wrong.

I'm pretty well sure everyone else here has a plan, I just stated that I have one openly. And, no; I'm not using that statement as a scapegoat to imitate activity, but to see how many are actually hunting scum. Jumping on the guy who did state he has a plan sounds strange for those who say they are scumhunting.

Besides, if I was scum, why would I even state any of that when I would have a chat channel with them or expose myself just like this? I'm only acting on what I see.
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On why I'm reading into it so much, he (Orangebottle) just stated he is town followed by a strange way of RVS'ing. I'm not sure why everyone else doesn't find that strange.
Probably because it isn't.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #136 on: January 30, 2012, 09:24:08 am »

Now I see many are already suspecting me of being scum.

@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.

I'm not nervous or afraid. I'm not afraid of the lynch nor am I any role that would benefit of such. If any of you expect me to back away because of fear, well, I'm proving that wrong.

I'm pretty well sure everyone else here has a plan, I just stated that I have one openly. And, no; I'm not using that statement as a scapegoat to imitate activity, but to see how many are actually hunting scum. Jumping on the guy who did state he has a plan sounds strange for those who say they are scumhunting.

Besides, if I was scum, why would I even state any of that when I would have a chat channel with them or expose myself just like this? I'm only acting on what I see.
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On why I'm reading into it so much, he (Orangebottle) just stated he is town followed by a strange way of RVS'ing. I'm not sure why everyone else doesn't find that strange.
Probably because it isn't.
Wait, what?

Tiriun.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #137 on: January 30, 2012, 10:03:42 am »

Now I see many are already suspecting me of being scum.

@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.

I'm not nervous or afraid. I'm not afraid of the lynch nor am I any role that would benefit of such. If any of you expect me to back away because of fear, well, I'm proving that wrong.

I'm pretty well sure everyone else here has a plan, I just stated that I have one openly. And, no; I'm not using that statement as a scapegoat to imitate activity, but to see how many are actually hunting scum. Jumping on the guy who did state he has a plan sounds strange for those who say they are scumhunting.

Besides, if I was scum, why would I even state any of that when I would have a chat channel with them or expose myself just like this? I'm only acting on what I see.
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On why I'm reading into it so much, he (Orangebottle) just stated he is town followed by a strange way of RVS'ing. I'm not sure why everyone else doesn't find that strange.
Probably because it isn't.
Wait, what?

Tiriun.
Wait, what? How exactly did OB's post change your opinion about Tiruin?

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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #138 on: January 30, 2012, 10:17:27 am »

Now I see many are already suspecting me of being scum.

@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.

I'm not nervous or afraid. I'm not afraid of the lynch nor am I any role that would benefit of such. If any of you expect me to back away because of fear, well, I'm proving that wrong.

I'm pretty well sure everyone else here has a plan, I just stated that I have one openly. And, no; I'm not using that statement as a scapegoat to imitate activity, but to see how many are actually hunting scum. Jumping on the guy who did state he has a plan sounds strange for those who say they are scumhunting.

Besides, if I was scum, why would I even state any of that when I would have a chat channel with them or expose myself just like this? I'm only acting on what I see.
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On why I'm reading into it so much, he (Orangebottle) just stated he is town followed by a strange way of RVS'ing. I'm not sure why everyone else doesn't find that strange.
Probably because it isn't.
Wait, what?

Tiriun.
Wait, what? How exactly did OB's post change your opinion about Tiruin?
It wasn't so much OB's post as it was his post that I missed.

The whole post is full of passive attacks. Incredibly passive.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #139 on: January 30, 2012, 11:02:16 am »

Wow, there's a lot more than I thought to catch up; proper post coming after thorough reread.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #140 on: January 30, 2012, 03:00:11 pm »

Okay, NOW I'm mostly still voting Powder Miner just because of this terrible lurking. He's been active on the rest of the board, no problem, but hasn't posted here in several days.

Seriously, get in here and make some goddamn posts. You've done no scumhunting, none, zilch, nada, since this game started. When I go at you, you get incredibly defensive, and when a couple of people jump on me you use it as an opportunity to jump completely off the radar.

I could understand if you just weren't around. Heck, I was gone for three days. But you've been making posts pretty regularly elsewhere, so you don't really have that excuse, do you?

Respond to my last post and then DO SOMETHING, damn it.

And when you get back, tell me what you think of Tiriun, please - does he look like scum to you, PM?
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #141 on: January 30, 2012, 03:34:42 pm »

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As I see it, GG shortened because he said he'd do it, in GTDaL-thread. I didn't like PM's reaction, since the shorten really had no chance to go through. I find this a tell similar to a thing I do on IRC: in 3p situations, someone fakevotes and I immediately state clear, as if I hadn't noticed the fakeness.

It's a rather small tell though. Glyphgryph did go pretty aggressive over it, and I can't really recall the meta for him.

I think PM is town. Not too sure about GG.
You seem to explain everything except why you think PM is town.
So, why?
Fixed.

Gut+Meta.

So yeah.

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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #142 on: January 30, 2012, 04:14:00 pm »

Okay, NOW I'm mostly still voting Powder Miner just because of this terrible lurking. He's been active on the rest of the board, no problem, but hasn't posted here in several days.

Seriously, get in here and make some goddamn posts. You've done no scumhunting, none, zilch, nada, since this game started. When I go at you, you get incredibly defensive, and when a couple of people jump on me you use it as an opportunity to jump completely off the radar.

I could understand if you just weren't around. Heck, I was gone for three days. But you've been making posts pretty regularly elsewhere, so you don't really have that excuse, do you?

Respond to my last post and then DO SOMETHING, damn it.

And when you get back, tell me what you think of Tiriun, please - does he look like scum to you, PM?
What poor scumhunting.
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Urist Imiknorris

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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #143 on: January 30, 2012, 04:18:13 pm »

Jim:
What exactly are you FOSing me for? I can't tell what you're getting at.
Half pressure, half paranoia. Scum Jim kind of scares me.

Tiruin:
Now I see many are already suspecting me of being scum.
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@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.
I am of the opinion that secret plans are the domain of scum.

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I'm pretty well sure everyone else here has a plan, I just stated that I have one openly. And, no; I'm not using that statement as a scapegoat to imitate activity, but to see how many are actually hunting scum. Jumping on the guy who did state he has a plan sounds strange for those who say they are scumhunting.
Nice passive-aggressive crap at the end. I have a plan too: Find scum, vote scum, maybe yell at people who aren't voting my choice of scum. Everything else is made up as I go along.

Speaking of which, Everyone not voting Tiruin: Why aren't you?

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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #144 on: January 30, 2012, 04:37:27 pm »

What poor scumhunting.

Thank you for that incredibly constructive criticism. I will be sure to take it to heart in the future, and dwell fondly upon your words whenever the opportunity presents itself. Perhaps I will transcend my random flailing and running after gut feelings, and someday master your ability to manage to say absolutely nothing with every one of my posts. We can only hope.

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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #145 on: January 30, 2012, 05:01:00 pm »

GryphGlyph, is there any particular reason besides you being scum for why you keep ignoring my question?

Not really what I want answered from you. I want an answer to why you freaked out and made a huge post and quoted Dakarian's scumhunting bible, as if that's supposed to help you or mean anything.

Jim Groovester: I know that I seem like scum right now, but let me make this clear. What was going on between GG and PM seemed to me to be two people bickering on every little detail on each other's posts. I read it all, to say the least. It did not help anyone except the two, in my opinion.

Currently, I have no other answer to why I was stepping in, just whatever I said before and this: A feeling that either both are town and are wasting their efforts other than getting attention on the real scum or that their actions are hiding scum due to the attention. Does it makes me seem like scum because I'm following my intuition when many are being vague themselves? (Other than the scum know town thing).

I'm pretty much done with this line of inquiry (because u r scum), but one more question: Why did you think both of them were town?

Speaking of which, Everyone not voting Tiruin: Why aren't you?

Gotta commit to pressure.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #146 on: January 30, 2012, 05:12:23 pm »

I thought at best it would add pressure, and if not best it would conceivably get him to scumhunt on his own. My posts day 1 are attempts to get someone to either break and show scum colors, or to spend time pressure someone else (as I pressure them), in the hope that the second person might throw some tells. I'm a strong believer that talking too much is better than talking too little for pretty much everyone that isn't scum. And in my mind, it's a way of applying pressure.

This may very well be an incredibly shitty strategy. I could very well be completely wrong. I've never pretended to be good at this game. I just do what I do.

I'm not entirely sure what part of the post you would consider a "freak out", though - it obviously reads much different for you than it does for me.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #147 on: January 30, 2012, 06:02:49 pm »

Tiruin:
@IronyOwl, Leafsnail and Urist I.: What is up with my stating of a plan that got you all caught up on it? Why would you want me explaining it-- to save me from the lynch because it may seem like a last-ditch opportunity? That is how I interpreted your statements about it.
When someone says that they can't explain what they're doing because that might tip off the scum, I'm inclined to believe that it's either an awesome fucking plan that has to remain so secret in order to work, or that they're scum who doesn't want to have to explain themselves. At some point, your "plan" is going to run its course, and then you'll be out of excuses to not explain it. It's then going to be a really, really good plan that I can totally see wanting to keep secret, or I'm going to lynch you for being lying, shifty scum.

The rest of your post is worthless. Others have explained why.



Imiknorris:
Speaking of which, Everyone not voting Tiruin: Why aren't you?
McArathos: Do something incredibly scummy, lurk. I want him dead more than Tiruin right now, and I'm willing to wait on hearing the latter's plan, assuming it's a brief wait.



GlyphGryph:
What poor scumhunting.

Thank you for that incredibly constructive criticism. I will be sure to take it to heart in the future, and dwell fondly upon your words whenever the opportunity presents itself. Perhaps I will transcend my random flailing and running after gut feelings, and someday master your ability to manage to say absolutely nothing with every one of my posts. We can only hope.
You're off to a good start. In the time it took you to do this:

I thought at best it would add pressure, and if not best it would conceivably get him to scumhunt on his own. My posts day 1 are attempts to get someone to either break and show scum colors, or to spend time pressure someone else (as I pressure them), in the hope that the second person might throw some tells. I'm a strong believer that talking too much is better than talking too little for pretty much everyone that isn't scum. And in my mind, it's a way of applying pressure.

This may very well be an incredibly shitty strategy. I could very well be completely wrong. I've never pretended to be good at this game. I just do what I do.

I'm not entirely sure what part of the post you would consider a "freak out", though - it obviously reads much different for you than it does for me.

You probably could have done something productive. Like anything but sitting on your lurkervote like it's accomplishing something.

Why don't you explain to me why you can't get jack shit done until PM shows up. And then why lurking is the most grievous thing you've seen anyone do thus far. And why PM's lurking is worse than everyone else's. That'd be nice.
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #148 on: January 30, 2012, 06:16:46 pm »

You probably could have done something productive. Like anything but sitting on your lurkervote like it's accomplishing something.

Why don't you explain to me why you can't get jack shit done until PM shows up.
Yes, because I've been sitting on my ass and clearly not posting at all. If you think I've been acting scummy, come out and say it. If you think it's poor town play, tell me what exactly I should be doing instead - right now, PM and Tiruin look like scum to me, and neither of them have responded to my posts directed against them. I suppose that, yes, I could ignore them and go after someone else. Come tonight, when I'm not at work, I probably will. But I don't intend on forgetting about him. I don't want him to think he can slip away.


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And then why lurking is the most grievous thing you've seen anyone do thus far. And why PM's lurking is worse than everyone else's. That'd be nice.
Because he's the only one who made a panicked sounding defensive rant to accusations and took the opportunity to disappear as soon as other people started declaring him town? Is there someone that's been lurking /more/ than he has since day 1?

And frankly, the lack of posts in general fucking pisses me off - if I could half the people here for lurking I would...
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Re: Bad Dudes Mafia - Infiltrated! [Day 1]
« Reply #149 on: January 30, 2012, 06:24:57 pm »

Okay, so I actually said most of what I wanted to say for now. So, more postage later tonight, I guess. I'm off!
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