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[webadict]

IronyOwl.  Why did you kill GlyphGryph rather than Urist A?

Leafsnail, how did you know IronyOwl killed GlyphGryph?

IronyOwl killed someone last Night.

You're welcome.

Kill action -> Mafia.

Really. Mafia wanted GlyphGryph gone?

Makes sense. Unvote.

Dariush, however, gets my vote.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Busy as hell, need to reread.

[Powder Miner]

Powder Miner, you did exactly zero scumhunting yesterday. Who are your suspects and why?

...I... don't know. Between the tunnel fight I got in with GG yesterday (and I get into these a lot, unfortunately.) and my not posting in the Mafia board for a while I really don't have any suspects yet.

Webadict, why are you voting people without reasons?

[Orangebottle]

OB, with my time, pretty much yeah. I thought you had pretty weak reasons but were not actually that scummy.

Stop fucking around. Start scumhunting, and answer my goddamn questions I requoted for you only a few posts ago. Also, what did I have pretty weak reasons for? Why are you being so fucking vague?

You set me up for that, by asking a question:

Ottofar: What's your opinion on the current argument between PM and GlyphGryph?

You ask me, fairly straight, what do I think of the townishness of GG and PM.

First,  I asked you what you think about their argument. In no way did I set you up to buddy PM.
Second, I didn't set you up to lie.

I reply I think GG might be scum, and he seems scummier than PM, who I think plays as he does when he's town.

And then I asked you, "How does PM play when he's town?"
I have yet to receive an answer that can be demonstrated as meta.

Here. I'll requote this post. I'm being really goddamn lenient with this.

[IronyOwl]

Ottofar:

Bluffing.

...

So that was the extent of your plan? Lie about it and hope really, really hard that he was both scum and the particular scum that had killed Jim?

What's your new plan?


Orangebottle: What do you think of Otto's attempt to bluff you out?


webadict:

Makes sense. Unvote.

Why was your plan so blunt?

[Orangebottle]

Orangebottle: What do you think of Otto's attempt to bluff you out?

I'm a little pissed that he thinks I'm that new to this game. His bluff was really fucking obvious, so I called him on it.

[webadict]

webadict:

Makes sense. Unvote.

Why was your plan so blunt?

I wanted to know who you killed.

[Leafsnail]

Leafsnail, how did you know IronyOwl killed GlyphGryph?

It's a simple deduction and I wanted Irony to not know whether I had extra role knowledge to catch him out in a lie or not when answering.

The reason for killing GlyphGryph makes sense and now Irony's outed I guess we could use him even if he's an SK.  Unvote.

Bluffing.

OB, with my time, pretty much yeah. I thought you had pretty weak reasons but were not actually that scummy.

And interesting kind of bluffing that has the potential for rolefishing, Ottofar (yeah there's a distinction, don't try to set up a lazy "contradiction" based on my above bluff which involved someone whose role was already outed).  As in, it'd be reasonable for Orangebottle to immediately counterclaim to your lie.  Actually...

I'm a little pissed that he thinks I'm that new to this game. His bluff was really fucking obvious, so I called him on it.

It's kindof weird that you immediately knew it was a bluff rather than a lie told by scum.  Why was this obvious?

[IronyOwl]

Orangebottle:

Orangebottle: What do you think of Otto's attempt to bluff you out?

I'm a little pissed that he thinks I'm that new to this game. His bluff was really fucking obvious, so I called him on it.

What do you mean "really fucking obvious?" Could he have done it in a way that'd have been believable? Would you have confessed were you really new to the game?

You also didn't call him on it other than to deny it, so what did that have to do with how obvious it was? Would you have not called him on it had it been well done?


web:

webadict:

Makes sense. Unvote.

Why was your plan so blunt?

I wanted to know who you killed.

Badly enough to out me as a vig and you as an actioncop for?

[Toaster]

Vote Count:

Urist Imiknorris:
Orangebottle:
Powder Miner: Urist Imiknorris
Think0028:
Ottofar: Orangebottle, IronyOwl, Leafsnail
Dariush: webadict
Urist_McArathos:
webadict: Powder Miner
IronyOwl: Dariush
Leafsnail:

Not Voting:  Think0028, Ottofar, Urist_McArathos

Day 2 will last until Monday 2/6 at 11 PM EST.

[Urist_McArathos]

I'd like to apologize to everyone;

My dad was admitted to hospital late last week, but I figured the worst was over and I could get past it.  It's not, and I'm having a hard time focusing.  I need a replacement, as I can't give even one game I'm in the attention it needs.

I know this is a really, really inconvenient thing to let happen (being as I'm in like, 4 games), but I over-estimated my ability to handle everything.

Sorry for the trouble, I wish you all the best of luck.

Happy Scumhunting/Mislynching!

[webadict]

web:

webadict:

Makes sense. Unvote.

Why was your plan so blunt?

I wanted to know who you killed.

Badly enough to out me as a vig and you as an actioncop for?

Oh, yeah, you're right. Last I checked, I should've just let you go about killing people like the mafia.

DOH! MY BAD.

[IronyOwl]

web:

webadict:

Makes sense. Unvote.

Why was your plan so blunt?

I wanted to know who you killed.

Badly enough to out me as a vig and you as an actioncop for?

Oh, yeah, you're right. Last I checked, I should've just let you go about killing people like the mafia.

DOH! MY BAD.

Well, you knew that I was either:

A. The sort of person to kill Jim, a strong town player

or

B. The sort of person to kill GlyphGryph, someone you said you'd instahammer given the chance

With these odds, you decided to bluntly declare me a killer, letting scum know you were an actioncop and I was a vig. Nothing more nuanced? Nothing more subtle? Nothing that webadict, Townhunter Extraordinaire could do to determine whether I was scum or vig with the right idea?

Yeah, that's a bit odd.

[Orangebottle]

It's kindof weird that you immediately knew it was a bluff rather than a lie told by scum.  Why was this obvious?

What do you mean "really fucking obvious?" Could he have done it in a way that'd have been believable?
Would you have not called him on it had it been well done?

Well, it's simple: I was roleblocked last night. So no, he couldn't have made his claim believable at all.

I wasn't the first person to refer to it as a bluff. It was Ottofar, then IronyOwl. I would've said that I was never at Jim's either way, so why does that really matter?

Would you have confessed were you really new to the game?

No, I guess not. My reaction probably would've been much more aggressive, but that's about it.

You also didn't call him on it other than to deny it, so what did that have to do with how obvious it was?

What? I exposed his bluff by saying that I wasn't at Jim's last night. I couldn't have been at Jim's last night on account of being roleblocked.

[Dariush]

Makes sense. Unvote.

Wuba, what the fuck?