For one thing, we don't know who is scum and who isn't. We're far more likely to hit town than scum with these oneshot kills. Useless people still have a function: they prevent scum from winning. Townies aren't machines; we're human. We make mistakes and can also drop scumtells, and be seen as scummy. So you want all of our oneshot kills to be used on targets that could also be town. This would be a waste of three oneshots.
...What? Under this logic, we shouldn't lynch either. We should lynch the person we think is scummiest, then shoot the 3 people we think are next scummiest. Otherwise we're just throwing the decision over to the mafia, who will kill someone who is 100% town and the person they want eliminated most. Summary: Kill on a person who most of the town thinks is scum vs kill on the person the mafia wants dead most.
Summary: mislynch a townie, then kill five more and win for the scum. I say five because the scum are almost guaranteed to be using their kills. We have one person who is definitely scum(You), and one who everybody else thinks is scum(me). If any kills are used, they should be on you for making this stupid plan.
There's no reason to hold onto these kills - they could be lost when the person dies or used to break lylo if the person is a mafia member.
If the user of the oneshot doesn't have anyone who is obvscum in their mind, they're probably going to hit town. If any of them are scum, they're going to use it on the town anyway.
Furthermore, that doesn't keep scum from killing at all. It just makes it so they don't need to kill as much.
That particular plan doesn't. The fact that we have a tonne of roleblockers, redirecters and other disrupters does.
Your plan included none of these, and it was a horrible plan. Feel free to come up with a better one while you get lynched.
I'm town. My oneshot tells me which actions affected which targets. It says nothing about who performed them, so I'll send Think a PM for verification. Only scum would be worried about the ability you thought I had, Leafsnail.
I'm not "worried" about your role, and I never said anything remotely to that effect. I can just see that it's far too good for a townie to have. It's like how the Exterminator Alien can have access to Intel in Paranormal, but that information would clearly be broken in the hands of a town player. I guess I don't know much about Think's modding, but this ability just seems like a very cheap way to net scum (since you don't even have to aim it). So in other words, I felt like your role was one that a survivor/ serial killer might have, or else a mafia role.
I don't know how to respond to this. BSER - Paranormal is not an easy comparison to make; there are far too many differences between the two. To name a couple:
Paranormal's roles are listed in the main topic.
Think isn't Mephansteras.
I guess you clearing up the misinterpretation of it makes it a lot weaker and maybe plausible for a townie to have, but it still means that the mafia definitely cannot kill in the night you use it (because we'd just have to see whoever's action is missing and bam, that person killed (and it'd be worse if someone falseclaimed at some point). You wouldn't be able to lie about using it either if some players had semi-randomized targets under the plan). And if you went through with your initial decision not to claim this, that would've made it even more broken.
There was no room for misinterpretation at all. I specifically claimed that I'd see the action and the target. You're also stating a blatant falsehood. Scum can kill in the night I use it.
But in any case there's no point in lynching you today because, whatever your alignment, you claiming this has completely locked the mafia down for tonight. Heck, if you die sometime I could even use your ability again to leave the mafia completely helpless for another night.
Hey there buddy. Did you really think that'd get me off your back, scum? See, I know that you already knew that I was town. You stated it right here. From your point of view, how is it impossible that I'm fakeclaiming scum? You've been avoiding my bandwagon ever since I claimed, probably to distance yourself from my mislynch.
This is known as blackmailing the town. It's scummy as hell.
In any case, your rolename business for flipping your opinion of claiming is crap. Anyone not braindead could come up with a passable fakeclaim using the exact same name.
I said some other reasons, but I can't be arsed to find them through all these walls. I believe it was in response to Webadict or Darvi.
Assuming Leafsnail isn't lying scum, yes.
Also assuming that Leafsnail wants to use his oneshot to use my oneshot.
Also assuming that Leafsnail doesn't get killed in the middle of the night.
Also assuming Leafsnail's oneshot isn't blockable.
Gee, that's a lot of assumptions.
Every one of those assumptions minus the second applies just as much to you. What difference does that make?
The argument was that my oneshot would never be used. If Leafsnail's fakeclaiming scum(which he most definitely is), he can't/wont use my oneshot on someone. If I'm fakeclaiming scum(which I'm not), then it would never have been used anyway. I didn't start that conversation, Imiknorris did. You should probably be asking him this question.
Leaf: Do you think those kills targets should be predetermined so there's no wasted actioning?
What.
This guy is guaranteed to be scum.
And you're agreeing with his incredibly shitty plan.
This doesn't strike you as odd?