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kaenneth

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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2012, 08:30:34 pm »

I have had 3 events:

1) Exiting high school, I saw a squirrel, at that moment, I KNEW there was money in the bushes on a route I don't normally take. I kept trying to shake off the feeling that there was something, because it just wasn't logical; I got a very strong feeling about one particular shrub, and even though it was prickly, searched it thoughly, and I found three 20 dollar bills. In Monopoly money. (I still have them.)

2) I had gotten a new job, and so bought a used jeep, and moved into an apartment 1 block away from work; one day while walking to work, I startled a rabbit which darted into the bushes; At that moment, I got an incredibly strong urge to go back and drive to work instead. I succesfully fought it off, every though it filled me with a sense of anxiety all day; when I returned home, my jeep was missing (The dealer had pre-emptively reprosessed it because they couldn't verify my employment/address; since when I bought it, I was still at my out work/apt; the new jobs etc. was all discussed with the dealer before then... they were idiots, what can I say?)

3) Later on, the same jeep (I bought out the loan w/parents money), I was crusing a county road. The CD player in that jeep was broken, I had tried it many times, even sticking a knife into it to see if something was jammed in it. There was a deer in the road, I stopped, it walked off; at that moment, I KNEW the CD player worked, so I pulled one out of my carry-case and slipped it in, and it worked.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2012, 08:36:41 pm »

3) Later on, the same jeep (I bought out the loan w/parents money), I was crusing a county road. The CD player in that jeep was broken, I had tried it many times, even sticking a knife into it to see if something was jammed in it. There was a deer in the road, I stopped, it walked off; at that moment, I KNEW the CD player worked, so I pulled one out of my carry-case and slipped it in, and it worked.

Telekinetic auto-electrician wildlife; next on Sick Sad World.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2012, 08:39:43 pm »

Before I was born, my mother just knew I was going to be a girl.

...So uh, yeah.  That pretty much sums up my view on foresight.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2012, 08:43:13 pm »

That's why I'm Agnostic instead of Athiest.

If there is 'something' out there, it possibly just likes to screw with us for laughs.
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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2012, 08:51:58 pm »

3) Later on, the same jeep (I bought out the loan w/parents money), I was crusing a county road. The CD player in that jeep was broken, I had tried it many times, even sticking a knife into it to see if something was jammed in it. There was a deer in the road, I stopped, it walked off; at that moment, I KNEW the CD player worked, so I pulled one out of my carry-case and slipped it in, and it worked.

Telekinetic auto-electrician wildlife; next on Sick Sad World.

I think that reference just made my day.
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« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2012, 06:43:02 pm »

They say dreams are sometimes your brain working out problems in your sleep, using available information to form a theory on whats going to happen.

that scares the living hell out of me considering my dream BUT, it has been observed in a great many cases.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2012, 10:54:25 pm »

Why would the mind work on solving such a problem as where I'll be in a year down to such frightening details as it does?
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« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2012, 10:58:19 pm »

well.. i dont fully understand it myself, but if you think about you only use 10% of your brain actively, about 50% is used while dreaming in some cases, im guessing your brain knows more than it tells you, also a scary thought...
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2012, 11:03:47 pm »

well.. i dont fully understand it myself, but if you think about you only use 10% of your brain actively, about 50% is used while dreaming in some cases, im guessing your brain knows more than it tells you, also a scary thought...
NO.

For the last time, that is a myth. You are using almost all of your brain, all of the time. The only time meaningful portions of the brain shut down is when you are sleeping, and even that isn't very much.

Anyway, the reason people sometimes get "prophetic dreams" can be attributed to large numbers. If you are having four dreams a night, with about fifty themes per dream, and there are seven billion humans, then someone, somewhere, is inevitably going to have a dream that matches what ends up happening in reality. Especially with the subconscious cobbling the dream together from elements of your actual experiences, therefore reducing the subject matter from "random" to "semi-random and usually relevant to something".
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« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2012, 11:53:57 pm »

then why do i only dream rarely and 99% of my dreams end up happening.

before you say i simply forget the rest or something like that, no its not the case, it happens often and consistently.
but they also are not particularly informative dreams, they are like quarter second snippets of people i have never seen, places i have never been etc etc.

people who experience what i do are the basis for the theory that dreams are sometimes subconscious predictions.
honestly, we know so little about the human mind we likely will never know the answer.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2012, 11:55:53 pm »

before you say i simply forget the rest-
You are simply forgetting the rest. It is called Confirmation Bias, and it is well pronounced in individuals even when they aren't dreaming. Dreams only boost Confirmation Bias because of how hard they actually are to remember. You won't even remember most of your dreams in a night the second you wake up, much less later when something in reality matches.
 
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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2012, 12:06:16 am »

than it seems strangely convenient that i would forget ALL of the dreams that never happen in reality, but remember the ones that do vividly from that moment onward.

anyways, psychology is a science that changes faster than most others. and usually everything found is proved wrong months after being found. so its a science i tend to stay away from besides occasionally reading a new study with 'proven facts'.

so, i withdraw from this conversation before it becomes a flame war about a relatively unstable section of science.
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Re: prophetic visions
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2012, 01:32:07 am »

Ahem

then why do i only dream rarely and 99% of my dreams end up happening.

before you say i simply forget the rest or something like that, no its not the case, it happens often and consistently.
but they also are not particularly informative dreams, they are like quarter second snippets of people i have never seen, places i have never been etc etc.

people who experience what i do are the basis for the theory that dreams are sometimes subconscious predictions.
honestly, we know so little about the human mind we likely will never know the answer.


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I have also begun having dreams (i don't usually), and even worse these dreams are absolutely delusional to a fault.

So overall my state of mind is kind of slowly degrading, it is becoming annoying as i am beginning to have trouble focusing in school, and I'm forgetting stuff more easily.


So which is it?
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« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2012, 12:56:29 am »

Ahem

then why do i only dream rarely and 99% of my dreams end up happening.

before you say i simply forget the rest or something like that, no its not the case, it happens often and consistently.
but they also are not particularly informative dreams, they are like quarter second snippets of people i have never seen, places i have never been etc etc.

people who experience what i do are the basis for the theory that dreams are sometimes subconscious predictions.
honestly, we know so little about the human mind we likely will never know the answer.


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I have also begun having dreams (i don't usually), and even worse these dreams are absolutely delusional to a fault.

So overall my state of mind is kind of slowly degrading, it is becoming annoying as i am beginning to have trouble focusing in school, and I'm forgetting stuff more easily.


So which is it?

hopefully, my more recent dreams dont follow the trend of my older dreams with coming true.

also, the top quote is a generalization about my past dreams. and the bottom quote is a more precise statement about recent dreams.

EDIT: also, if something i say makes no sense, assume it made sense in my head but was poorly presented. happens alot.
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« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2012, 02:18:35 am »

That's just classic Deja vu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu
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You aren't special or magical, it happens to everyone, is not an actual memory no matter how much it feels like a memory. Unless you manage to fully document your dreams beforehand, you have absolutely no ground to stand upon when claiming it actually happened. Simple deja vu is much more likely to have occurred than the likelihood of you using some undiscovered magical powers to predict the future. Your only defense against it being deja vu is "I know it's a memory because it feels just like a memory does," which is precisely how it would feel if it were deja vu.
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