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treczoks

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Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« on: January 08, 2012, 03:20:53 pm »
Fellow Dwarfherders,

I followed the path I learnd from others that I order a smith to make e.g. breast plates, sort them qualitywise, and melt the inferior stuff, until I have sufficient stock in masterworks quality.

This worked fine, and I never noticed a problem with that when dealing with steel.

Now I did the same with adamantite - my smith made battle axes, and I sent the lesser ones back to the smelter. I used only one smelter for recycling the adamantite, and now my stocks on green disks looks way smaller than it should, judging from the number of battle axes he made. I have no precise numbers, but I think there is some loss involved.

Anybody here who could confirm this?
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Re: Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 03:25:48 pm »
Melting an item down produces only about 1/3 of a bar usually.
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Re: Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 03:28:48 pm »
Quote from: FuzzyZergling on January 08, 2012, 03:25:48 pm
Melting an item down produces only about 1/3 of a bar usually.
Ouch. VERY ouch.
I never noticed this with steel, but with the green stuff, it really hurt.
Thanks for the info, though.

Yours, Christian
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Re: Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 04:04:10 pm »
Er, adamantine is cyan, not green...
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Re: Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 05:16:28 pm »
Checking the raws will give you a better idea on how much metal you'll recover from a melt job. The [MATERIAL_SIZE:X] toke is what you'll want to look for. A 1 in place of the X will result in one tenth of a bar, a 5 will result in half of a bar, and a 10 will result in a whole bar. Breastplates are excellent armor to train skill with, as they are set at 9, so 90% of the metal is recovered from them. Battle axes are only 4, which is high for a weapon, but still means that the metal loss will be much more noticeable when compared with breastplates.
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Re: Forging + Smelting = Material loss?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 07:47:53 pm »
Treczoks, you might not be aware that breastplates are a special case.  They're supposed to require three bars to create, but due to a bug, currently require only one.  That bug is the only reason that the smelting a breastplate recovers enough metal to forge a new one.
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