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Maksie99

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Randomly Generated Holidays!
« on: January 08, 2012, 10:23:41 am »
I think it would be nice to have randomly generated holidays. The holiday would relate to a historical event, give dwarves a happy thought and would cause them to throw a party if a dining hall or statue garden is available. Here's a little example.

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Dragonfall the Plump Helmets Day is a dwarven holiday. It relates to the killing of Naz the male dragon in 345. This holiday is usually celebrated with plump helmets, prepared dragon kidney and blue rope reed fiber hats.

I think random little things like this make the game more interesting.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 10:31:57 am »
Cacamegethor is a dwarven holiday. It relates to the rise in a long lost dwarven kingdom of Cacame Awemendinade the elf to kingship. This is celebrated by the slaughtering of dragons, the killing of elves, and the famous Colossus of Cacame, where a horde of invaders were scared off by a giant statue of the king. This holiday also relates to the disappearance of Cacame into a deep mountain forest, his last words having been 'I'm going to go show elves what happens when you spill my pint.'
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 11:09:26 am »
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 11:41:21 am »
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 03:44:37 pm »
Quote from: Maksie99 on January 08, 2012, 10:23:41 am
I think random little things like this make the game more interesting.

Urist McAxeDwarf cancels fight siege:  celebrating Plump Helmet Day.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 05:39:59 am »
Quote from: Uristocrat on January 08, 2012, 03:44:37 pm
Quote from: Maksie99 on January 08, 2012, 10:23:41 am
I think random little things like this make the game more interesting.

Urist McAxeDwarf cancels fight siege:  celebrating Plump Helmet Day.

Cue the on-break-ocalypse
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 07:05:08 am »
I like the idea of "holidays", but I can't see what they'd do.  Mostly I can see them grinding the fortress to a standstill.  Now, you could have them "work through the holidays" as well.  Since, we humans do such a thing, it isn't hard to believe that Dwarves wouldn't either.

Perhaps you could only have "No Job" dwarves celebrate and everyone else continues what they were doing?  Also, if you didn't have the materials on hand to make the "party equipment" like those blue hats you talked about...  Would it result in cancelling the whole thing and giving a negative thought?

I'm just not sure, it seems like this would make the game unnecessarily difficult to play.  It's a cool concept and would flesh out the world a bit more...  I just can't see how it would be implemented in a way that wouldn't completely derail the fortress and possibly cause its destruction.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 07:08:45 am »
Quote from: Tai_MT on January 09, 2012, 07:05:08 am
I like the idea of "holidays", but I can't see what they'd do.  Mostly I can see them grinding the fortress to a standstill.  Now, you could have them "work through the holidays" as well.  Since, we humans do such a thing, it isn't hard to believe that Dwarves wouldn't either.

Perhaps you could only have "No Job" dwarves celebrate and everyone else continues what they were doing?  Also, if you didn't have the materials on hand to make the "party equipment" like those blue hats you talked about...  Would it result in cancelling the whole thing and giving a negative thought?

I'm just not sure, it seems like this would make the game unnecessarily difficult to play.  It's a cool concept and would flesh out the world a bit more...  I just can't see how it would be implemented in a way that wouldn't completely derail the fortress and possibly cause its destruction.

And nobles don't do the same? If anything, it could be something a new noble/high nobles could perform as their duties - if they suffer an unfortunate accident, suddenly the Dwarves get an unhappy thought for not being able to celebrate their plump helmet day :P
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 05:21:31 pm »
Quote from: Tai_MT on January 09, 2012, 07:05:08 am
I'm just not sure, it seems like this would make the game unnecessarily difficult to play.  It's a cool concept and would flesh out the world a bit more...  I just can't see how it would be implemented in a way that wouldn't completely derail the fortress and possibly cause its destruction.

Let's break this down into two main parts.

"...make the game unnecessarily difficult to play."
Good idea, badly worded. DF is already unnecessarily difficult, it's just so in entertaining ways. Holidays? Maybe not so much.

"I just can't see how it would be implemented in a way that wouldn't completely derail the fortress and possibly cause its destruction."
Like there's ANYTHING that can't cause a fortress's destruction? And everyone seems so fond of derailing stuff here...
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 07:33:23 pm »
OK!
Minor holidays wouldn't really matter, but selected major ones would, there would be approx 2 of these per year.
You wouldn't need any fancy gear, that would just make the dorfs celebrate more!
On these days, double the alcohol will be used!
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 07:45:41 pm »
"We Love The Spirit Of The Fortress Day" celebration cancelled in YourFortress: everybody is Kung-Fu Fighting.  It's a little bit frightening.

(Alternatively...: they're all dead, Dave, everybody's dead, Dave, everybody's dead.)


Am I mixing too many memes up, there?  Probably.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 08:42:17 pm »
Quote from: Shadowscales on January 11, 2012, 07:33:23 pm
OK!
Minor holidays wouldn't really matter, but selected major ones would, there would be approx 2 of these per year.
You wouldn't need any fancy gear, that would just make the dorfs celebrate more!
On these days, double the alcohol will be used!
Uhh...

I would rather that Holidays be based on either very important historical events, or religious events that where dwarves praise a specific god (or event that occurred between gods).

For example; The Dwarves who hail from the civilization The Manor of Tours celebrate the day of when Urist McPlumpHelmet made peace with the nearby Goblin civilization. It is believed that McPlumpHelmet had the blessings of the Unicorn Goddess. On this day, they celebrate by dressing up as Goblins (green dye?), eating Plump Helmets, and worshipping the Unicorn Goddess of Peace and Fertility (this could inspire dwarves to have more sex). Also, music, of course.

Eventually, when multiple races can live in a fort together, this would be amazing time for Dwarves and Goblins to mix together.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 10:09:42 pm »
They currently do mix together though :D

Albeit, very, very violently....
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 12:16:41 pm »
You fool. If elves and dwarves come together...

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B. Blood splatters the halls.
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Re: Randomly Generated Holidays!
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 01:11:28 pm »
Ha.  I just played NetHack to see if I could reach lv4 as a Tourist, and it mentioned something regarding Fri 13th.  That was kinda creepy.  I'm all for Unrandomly Generated Holidays.  As for Random Holidays, I would prefer processing go elsewhere, especially the random calculations.  Combat and much greater variety in world generation.  That is not to say however, that I wouldn't enjoy a few birthday partys, now and again.  "Grab your beard, grab your beer, theres a party coming here!" 

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