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[Sirus]

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See, I pushed all the blocks to the right, and made the jump. However, I don't think I opened a shortcut. Looking back (this happened last night) I think that was a totally different lever, as I found the shortcut (just past a chest with poison gas in it) but it was still closed.

I think I found the dungeon proper, it's blocked with a huge metal pillar. I couldn't do anything there, and turned back.

I miss Sana's magic. She'd make this whole section so much easier 

EDIT: I was right, the lever across the water leads to the shortcut, but there is a second gate past a trap chest that remains closed. I also re-found the altar past the first gate, but no sign of the dungeon entrance. This game needs a map system.

EDIT AGAIN: So I was talking to the villagers in windmill town again, and one of them mentioned the Tower. He recommended I talk to the mayor for the key. Mayor said that he didn't have the key, but there was supposed to be a crest in the hills beyond the town. Now I head back, and I'm getting dialogue.
WHAT. THE. CRAP.
So apparently I was trying to sequence-break without meaning to. No wonder I couldn't get anything to happen!

[JoshuaFH]

Sour about that unintentional sequence breaking.

[Wolf Tengu]

*Grumble Grumble*

Any good tips for compensating for Arche's lack of range when attacking things? I got a little stuck in that place fillled with merpeople.

Oh, and poison in this game is the most evil thing ever.

[Errol]

Jump into downstabs, Arche Kick to close the distance or just block into thrust into combo. Learning to block is rather crucial.

The poison is evil, yes, but it also made for the most epic moment I had in this game to date. I arrived in the town I needed to reach for a quest just two venom ticks before death. Sana down, no herbs, no antidote. It was a magnificent race against the clock, thankfully I won it

[Wolf Tengu]

I can't remember which combo it is for the kick, and that revealing-armour lady isn't telling me combo's anymore.

I'm fine for blocking, I just tend to get swarmed and stunlocked until i'm dead.

I'm not sure it would've been as bad if I hadn't been poisoned by the first snake I saw, and tried blocking that fancy blue merperson that, turns out, can smash me with ice.

Oh, and is anything you get from that 20cp machine thingie good for anything?

[Rhodan]

Check the abilities in the F1 menu to see your combo moves.

[Frumple]

Don't have the full game, but re: Demo and getting arche to function well, I just switched control to the secondary character and played artillery. AI was pretty solid for keeping arche flapping about and murdering things, while not dying.

[JoshuaFH]

The AI is more than competent, it's some of the best teammate AI I've seen to date. They follow the simple orders you can give, they dodge attacks and counterattack with amazing competence, they avoid traps, they heal when you need it (which is usually about less than one half), and most impressively, they automatically adapt their strategies to the enemies you're fighting. They don't waste magic on trivial enemies, they use the weakest and cheapest magic when you run into enemies that still take more than one hit to kill, they buff you and ratchet up the next best magic when facing challenging enemies, and they go all out with buffs and debuffs and the best magic they have when you face a boss; all this without you needing to say a thing. I absolutely love this AI, and this actually facilitates the story since it reinforces the idea that your teammates are, you know, ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD at what they do!

It keeps the pace appreciable as well, since it means you don't need to be constantly fiddling with menu options.

SO I just beat the game! It was pretty awesome.

Spoiler: Major Spoilers (click to show/hide)

But I'm already SUPER HYPED for sequel! It's really obvious that Arche's story isn't over, there's SO MUCH to the world that still needs to be explored! Let's see, just off the top of my head:

There's that mysterious voice that's bossing Selene around. Obviously another antagonist, and that there's more to the Dark World than just what was given.

There's a WHOLE WORLD that still needs to be explored! Arche and company only got to see a small fraction of it! There's Dalmatia, Scotsholm, the lands beyond the mountains and ocean, and other places I'm forgetting as well. Just so much territory, and I want to see it!

And there's so many plot threads as well! There's Arche's Dad, who's very obviously not just an ordinary swordsman, and has a past that he's been concealing from Arche. I gather this from the fact that he had the key to that dungeon, and I personally suspect that he took and hid the second of the stone tablets from Arche, since it makes sense he knows what they are if he had the key to where they were hidden.

There's the last two of the four great elemental stones! Th story never led us to complete the Fire Temple, so I suspect that Stella will be getting a Unison as well in the next game.

There's the mystery with Stella's Dad, why he's never at home (besides just being a bad parent) and both how and why he had the Royal Scarlet and gave it to his daughter.

There's the not-as-mysterious mystery of Sana's dad, and his history as a Preserver. I fully expect Sana to get her own awesome crystal and to be able to Unison as well, eventually.

And of course, there's Selene's past, and why she's doing what she's doing and who's bossing her around to do it.

There's also a WHOLE BUNCH of special items that you find, but never serve a purpose. What is this whale oil and fairy water going to do? Will it serve a purpose in the next game or am I just missing some awesome secret?

I unlocked what I suspect is an ultra hard optional Dungeon upon completing the game, so I guess I'll be getting around to doing that.

Spoiler: Not as spoily, but I have a question for people atleast in the midgame (click to show/hide)

I was surprised that the story never led you to complete the Fire Temple, I mean, I waited and waited, thinking that the story would mandate that I spend more time in it than just the bit with saving Kanon in Korat. Before I knew it, I completed the game and the Fire Temple kind of got forgotten about. Has anyone gone out of their way to try to complete it? Is it impossible without some item that hasn't been given to you yet, since I suspect it's for the next game? I really want to know, since I don't to load up my old save of Korat just to do it if it's just a dead-end.

Finally, I have a general question. Does anyone know where to get Calming Cocoa? I need it for the Helping Dad thing, but I have not stumbled on a single one over the entire game.

[Errol]

I can't remember which combo it is for the kick, and that revealing-armour lady isn't telling me combo's anymore.

I'm fine for blocking, I just tend to get swarmed and stunlocked until i'm dead.

I'm not sure it would've been as bad if I hadn't been poisoned by the first snake I saw, and tried blocking that fancy blue merperson that, turns out, can smash me with ice.

Oh, and is anything you get from that 20cp machine thingie good for anything?

The grand prize is pretty nice. A staff that grants a bunch of spirit and mana. You can use it until well in the midgame.

[Sirus]

I got lucky and found Merrin's Staff on my second try with the capsule machine. It's pretty awesome.
X3

Also, related to my woes from yesterday:

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Alright, I found the dungeon entrance this time (now that the proper dialogue was triggering). I went as far down as I could go, and on my way back discovered a small cutscene about brambles and how I can't get through. One of the characters said something to the effect of "we should turn around", so I went back to Tonkiness. Nothing seems to be triggering though, was I supposed to go back into the dungeon?

[Errol]

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You are supposed to get to the bottom of the dungeon. The part with the brambles is a separate part of the dungeon accessible with another girl's power.

[JoshuaFH]

I found the Calming Cocoa, so any hypothetically helpful persons can disregard my previous question.

Spoiler: postgame spoil (click to show/hide)

SO I checked out the optional dungeon, and I'm a little disappointed. Well, technically it's not it's own dungeon, but rather that it's a locked subsection to the last dungeon that you get the password for when you beat the game. I mean, yeah, it's full of hordes of tough enemies, tougher than anywhere else actually, AND it's full of a hideous number of highly damaging traps... but there's not a lot too it.

There's ALOT of sweet loot. The best equipment in the game for your characters, but that seems to be it. No ultra hard secret boss, no wicked secret cutscenes, no nothing except lots of sweetass loot.

However, I'm really curious. How this part works is that you fall down a chasm and you maneuver into any number of passages along the side of that chasm. At the bottom there's a teleporter to put you back at the top. There's three chasms in all to fall down, but you always have to start with the middle one and then work your way to either the left or the right chasm. Taking the first available passage to the right, you can get to the rightmost chasm, but the chasm goes UP as well! I just can't for the life of me figure out if there's anything up there, or HOW to get up there! Even with Arche's triple jump I can't even see if there's anything up there. How baffling!

And there's a weird notch in the side of the wall that doesn't seem to serve a purpose. I suspect it's hiding some obtuse secret but I just can't for the life of me figure it out!

This game has been so good about not needing any guides or spoilers to play, and play really well, so I hope I don't have to resort to a guide to quell my curiosity.

[Sirus]

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Whew! Made it through the dungeon, defeated Stella (stupid bitch), and healed Sana. I think I'm in the clear for now, thanks for all the help!

[Lord Snow]

Can't play the demo, steam error 54 :/

Sounds interesting tho, i like recettear a lot.


edit: works now.
Damnit, how are you supposed to kill bats
default controls so awkward.

[Sirus]

Jump and attack.

Bats (and pretty much any flying enemy) are a pain, but just wait until you're running around slaying kobolds and jaguars like a baws. I'm currently at the point where I'm doing roughly 40-50 damage every attack and can take on multiple opponents at once. It feels pretty damn awesome.