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Lordraymond

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My dwarves are pussies
« on: January 06, 2012, 05:28:45 am »

So, I'm playing and stuff, building up my first wave of gear on my shiny new fort that has iron for the first time in forever. I'm getting set to forge some steel weapons and iron shields, when I get a message:

"The forgotten beast Aban has risen! He is a gigantic skinless alligator. He undulates rhythmically. Beware his fire!"

'Oh, no problem' I think, 'I have a wall set up down there, he can't get through'

My dwarves go about their business, smelt a few pig irons, etc. when I get a storm of messages.

"Urist McPrissypants cancelled job: Store item in stockpile. Interrupted by Forgotten beast."

Why? Because they can see him over the wall, through a one wide space. My problem is, now I'm stuck. I have gear, but only full armor without shields. Even if I raised a military using the stuff I've already forged, they'd get obliterated by fire and beat on it uselessly with their fists. I have Beak Wolves at my gates and it's late autumn, so I'm not getting dwarven assistance this year, and not only will my dwarves not wall off the area they can see through, they won't get close enough to wall off the staircase!

"Why not forge more?" one might ask. My forges are on the other side of the crossing, with no other way through to them. Any attempts to forge anything lead to more sissy-lala job cancellations, and even worse, my only spare anvil is being used in a suspended building that no-dwarf want's to finish! Argh!

So, Bay12, A) should I open my doors in the caverns and let the !!FUN!! in, B) build a billion traps, or C) just dig around it? (Hint, C is totally... um... let's see, reverse psycology... C IS TOTALLY NOT A GOOD ONE TO PICK, DON'T PICK C AT ALL!)

UPDATE: The caravan managed to squeeze in right at the end. I had enough for an iron buckler and a bronze pickaxe, which I'm now giving to my miner in combo with some of the other gear I've accumulated. Hopefully my dwarf-style lightsaber will put an end to this menace!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 05:54:14 am by Lordraymond »
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 06:02:38 am »

For a moment, you had me worried thinking your Dwarves had evolved into some sort of midget humanoid cat. But alas, they were merely frightened by a lovecraftian being.

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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 06:07:19 am »

Put your smiths into a squad, send squad down to forges, assign smiths to burrow covering forges, remove smiths from squard. Mil. dwarfs won't flee so they will be able to get past the FB. Or just dig another staircase to your forges (C)
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 07:06:04 am »

1. Dig an elaborate passageway from the outside where the Beak Wolves are, down to where the FB is.
2. Wall off all entrances to your stronghold, except one in the caverns.
3. Open both ends of the elaborate passageway, and the Beak Wolves should go flooding into the caverns killing your least favourite dwarf in the process.
4. Watch the FB and the Beak Wolves have a duel to the death.
5. Clear up what's left.
6. ???
7. Profit!
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 07:34:40 am »

Then take the winner and use it to eat elves >:)
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 07:46:40 am »

1. Dig an elaborate passageway from the outside where the Beak Wolves are, down to where the FB is.
2. Wall off all entrances to your stronghold, except one in the caverns.
3. Open both ends of the elaborate passageway, and the Beak Wolves should go flooding into the caverns killing your least favourite dwarf in the process.
4. Watch the FB and the Beak Wolves have a duel to the death.
5. Clear up what's left.
6. ???
7. Profit!

Only problem is, the Wolves already departed. Plus, they're unarmored and mostly unskilled, meaning it would have just been MOAR COARPSEZ and a tasty snack for Beasty McAlligator.
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 08:16:23 am »

Well you could dig a special tunnel into your fortress and then trap it between two short raising drawbridges; use a tethered animal and a door to lure it in and delay it. Raise the bridges and its stuck until you have a means to deal with it. The device can be used multiple times after that, (there's never just one of these damn things). I have one where I'd pipe magma into it which took care of any syndromes, you could also trap a bunch of goblins during sieges and pit them in with it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 09:30:53 am »

use every dwarf and dog you can in a massive attack, it can only attack one dwarf at a time.
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 10:10:32 am »

use every dwarf and dog you can in a massive attack, it can only attack one dwarf at a time.

It breathes fire. Your tactic would just end up in multiple boozeplosions, or a dead fort.
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 10:12:57 am »

Boozesplosion. The worst I've seen from burning food stockpiles is melted tallow in mangled barrels

Forgotten Beasts are immune to traps. At least cage traps

Why can't you just rebuild the industries you can't reach and put more walls between your fortress and the beast until they can't see it
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 10:41:38 am »

Do what I do: dig a tunnel underneath the forgotten beast, from somewhere safe in the fort, to your forges, make stuff, equip your military, beat the hell out of that alligator.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 12:15:36 pm »

1. Dig an elaborate passageway from the outside where the Beak Wolves are, down to where the FB is.
2. Wall off all entrances to your stronghold, except one in the caverns.
3. Open both ends of the elaborate passageway, and the Beak Wolves should go flooding into the caverns killing your least favourite dwarf in the process.
4. Watch the FB and the Beak Wolves have a duel to the death.
5. Clear up what's left.
6. ???
7. Profit!

Only problem is, the Wolves already departed. Plus, they're unarmored and mostly unskilled, meaning it would have just been MOAR COARPSEZ and a tasty snack for Beasty McAlligator.

I read in here somewhere of a baby turkey killing a dwarf child... ANYTHING is possible.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 12:33:47 pm »

Carve fortifications from above and shoot the thing to death.
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 03:30:16 pm »

Carve fortifications from above and shoot the thing to death.

See, the issue here is that I can't do ANYTHING to stop this guy. No miners or builders will even get close enough to carve anything out

EDIT: Crisis averted, with clever use of restricted areas and side-tunneling the influx of interrupt messages has slowed considerable, and my smiths be smithin'
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 03:47:24 pm by Lordraymond »
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Re: My dwarves are pussies
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 03:55:43 pm »

Wait wait wait, sorry for double post but this deserves it.

Urist McSheriff, who's also my hunter, was actually the one who ended the reign of terror. I just looked at the thing and it was covered in a pool of its own blood, and I had a hunting (not combat, HUNTING report)

I check it and fine that it took him two shots to kill the thing that had been terrorizing my fortress for the past four ingame months.

"The flying +Turkey Bone Bolt+ strikes the Forgotten Beast in the right front leg, tearing the muscle and fracturing the bone!
 The Forgotten Beast falls over!
 The flying +Turkey Bone Bolt+ strikes the Forgotten Beast in the upper body, tearing the muscle and tearing the heart!"

It's official, McSheriff is now the most badass dwarf I've had in a while, especially because hunting is a civilian profession, meaning he did it without getting scared off or being told to do so. In fact, he didn't even consider it "combat", but just another animal to hunt.
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