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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[majikero]

Can we turn in the cards for the costumes? That's the important part.

[AngelXDv]

I am thinking about starting to play Mabinogi again, but the difficulty of G3 turns me away every time. I applied to join the guild. My question is: is there somebody that doesn't have anything better to do than to help me finish G3 (I am, from what I remember, somewhere at the beginning)? I am in East European Summer Time (UTC/GMT +3h) [I live in Romania]. Probably more than just one person, since I understand from the wiki that the last quest is extremely difficult. I am melee and would like to hybrid with magic, so at the end I will choose Dark Knight. Anybody from the guild that would like to help?

[alexwazer]

I'm pretty much always ready and willing to help. So just let me (ign Donryu) whenever you reach the finale. I think everything up to that point is easy enough. I can also log in pretty much whenever, so timezone isn't a problem.

[Facekillz058]

Same goes for me, IGN is Arahishi, though I'm somewhat less reliable than Don, I'd be happy to come along as a third person.

[AngelXDv]

Also, I tried the method on the wiki to befriend Agnes, but I couldn't. Does anybody have Quick and Effective First Aid so I can train my First Aid to Rank E? Thanks a lot!

[Facekillz058]

You know, why does Mabi getting more accessible and less Pay-to-Advance Quickly actually pissing me off?'
Weekly Rebirths?
Daily Rebirths up to level 1000?
Like, what the hell, this is getting ridiculous.
It's like casuals took over the department in charge of these decisions.
I worked for MONTHS getting to level 1000, and it was worth it, made me happy, and now you're telling me someone can do it in 15 days?
Fucking retarded, I say.
Everyone is going to get so stupidly powerful in a couple weeks and the game isn't even going to be fun anymore.

[alexwazer]

I could understand how you feel if Mabinogi was like most MMO, with maximum level after which there is little progression possible. However, it isn't like most MMO. 1000 total levels isn't the end of the road, not even close. For many people, this is about where it starts being interesting. Can't blame Nexon for trying to keep things interesting for new players, can we? Besides, you aren't losing anything from that. You still get to benefit from weekly rebirths, and most likely will until you grow bored of the game and quit, like most people.

I hope you realize that when you started (whenever that is exactly), you already had it much easy and smoother than people before you. If it was fine to smooth the road for people like you, which wouldn't it not be fine to do the same for people coming after?

[SirAaronIII]

Also, I tried the method on the wiki to befriend Agnes, but I couldn't. Does anybody have Quick and Effective First Aid so I can train my First Aid to Rank E? Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, it's untradable, so that means you need to keep at it or use friendship potions (obtainable from rafting).

[Seriyu]

Yeah, NPC friendship stuff is a huge pain in the junk. Just gotta keep at it, sometimes for quite a while.

[Seriyu]

Ninja talent has been unveiled in japan as of a couple of months ago. Seems to be a mid range/melee combo, and in case any elves are thinking they might have something they can do that isn't archery, it runs off strength and will for no good reason.

[Kaitol]

WHY ARE GIANTS BETTER SUITED TO BE NINJA THAN ELVES TT_TT

And lookit all that crowd control too.

[Malt_Hitman]

The Miku Card and one Ace Chef card of every race have become useless, yes. I think aside from using them to make a brand new character. So that's... a thing.

I either missed this completely yesterday or Nexon added it after I posted. link

Only select character cards can be disenchanted.
The following cards cannot be disenchanted:

• Assistant Card (Elf/Giant)
• Warrior's Destiny Card (Human/Elf /Giant)
• Ranger's Destiny Card (Human/Elf /Giant)
• Mage's Destiny Card (Human/Elf /Giant)
• Alchemist's Destiny Card (Human/Elf /Giant)
• Hero Card (Human/Elf /Giant)
• Elite Hero Card (Human/Elf /Giant)

So it looks like your Miku card should tradeable for pons and hopefully an outfit bag with Miku wear.  Ace cards should also be good unless they're the generic Ace rebirth card.

Also, I tried the method on the wiki to befriend Agnes, but I couldn't. Does anybody have Quick and Effective First Aid so I can train my First Aid to Rank E? Thanks a lot!

Befrending NPCs is tricky.  You have to give them their chosen item and then talk to them with Personal Story and Rumors (whatever the small talk option is under Personal Story).  If the greeting text tells you they don't like you right now then you have to bribe them with 4 or 5 gold coins *without* talking to them about story and rumors until they like you again.  Then keep going until they don't like you and repeat the bribery.  It's best to fill as much of your inventory with liked items and some pet space too to save time on trips. Likeability potions can speed up the process a little but if you're using their liked item from the wiki you may have to give some NPCs dozens of items and gold bribes.  NPCs know your a walking wallet and can't do a thing to hurt them so they'll milk you for all they can.

WHY ARE GIANTS BETTER SUITED TO BE NINJA THAN ELVES TT_TT

And lookit all that crowd control too.

Some think it's Nexon filling out the STR + X roles.  Puppets have STR + DEX.  Gunners have STR + INT.  That leaves WILL and LUCK.  Others think "Giant Master Race" and "more for elves to QQ about".  On the bright side, you can be a underpowered elf ninja...with black hair!

[Seriyu]

That's a fine point! Let's go over all the classes in that respect.

Close combat - Str (yes it uses dex but no more then any other class besides maybe mage)
Mage - Int
Fighter - Will
Archer - dex
Puppets - Str+dex
Guns - Str+Int
Ninja - Str+Will

Bard - I... forget. I think int/dex? It's kind've a wierd class so I'm not sure it counts.
Alch - doesn't run off stats traditionally so it's not really a thing.
Lances - Also pure str. These were introduced early on and really come across more as a new weapon then a new class, so it's possible they're just meant to be "close combat extended".

Any I'm missing? I feel like I'm missing something.

[Kaitol]

Not unless you count the ace talents.

[Seriyu]

Ace talents are, I believe, mostly extensions ala lances. Also they don't have exclusive skills I don't think? They just get them easier. So yeah, should be fine.

It's notable that dual stat talents only came about releatively recently, so that's interesting. The filling out the stat tables thing might have some relevance.