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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[Facekillz058]

If you are only at the beginning stages of the game, you haven't experienced much yet.
Once you get into the late game and end up fighting multiple stronger opponents at once, combat will either feel much more enjoyable like a horrible trip and fast paced, or you'll die horribly.
If you find the world feeling empty, try to play on Channel 1. That is where most of the people are concentrated, and you'll see many more people than you would on channel 5.
If the talent you are using feels boring, try something new, mix it up! If Close Combat feels slow, try Martial Arts or Puppetry! If you don't like magic, you might like Alchemy! Only weird people like using bows, so try guns or something! The amount of ways to play the game are much more numerous than any other ever, so experiment! Try and find what works for you.

[Seriyu]

I'm honestly trying my best to find enjoyment in this game. I do like the community and combat at times but. It feels so rigid and clunky. When I click the minimap to move somewhere, the game tends to steer me into an object and not let the path finding complete it's course without player intervention. I can tolerate but dislike the camera the game has going on and have found the world to be pretty empty besides the capital zone.

So I guess I just need to know, gameplay-wise does the game at all get many improvements? Because I truly want to like this game as I am in love with the community, but just can't get pasted this initial feel.

Only lvl. 19 maybe 20 as I type this and hope more is to come.

Part of this is no doubt an unfamiliarity with the combat system, until you get the swing of things it feels very clunky and terrible. In that respect you need to get out of the concept of "hit two/three times, let enemy attack me, hit two/three times again" etc, because it's something that's encouraged by the game and you're never really weaned off it, and it paints a terrible picture of the combat.

Instead you want to do things like one two three, smash, assault slash, windmill after it stands up, defend, windmill because there's someone else attacking you, etc. Part of this is no doubt that a lot of early dungeons without multi aggro are snoozefests once you've got sufficient ranks in defensive skills. Hint: Rank windmill up to 9 at least. All the way to the top if you can.

Facekillz advice also holds true, don't be afraid to branch out, all of the skillsets play fairly differently and are generally fun to find your way around. I'm sure you can find some skillset you enjoy! Although getting some ranks in close combat is never a bad idea.

I will back up Facekillz and say ch1 is where most people are, but ch2 has a reasonable amount of people usually without the client wrenching lag that comes with walking around in dunbarton on ch1.

Don't be afraid to get into the clan while you can, if you haven't by the way. A lot of later content becomes very difficult to solo for quite a while until you have your skills up to snuff, and everyone in there is very nice.

If you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask the thread! SirAaron will probably tell me through steam and summon me to help if you (or anyone else)does.

[alexwazer]

I don't have much to add to what Seriyu and Facekillz said. However, concerning the clunkiness, make sure that you turned off the nagle algorithm as mentioned in the first post.

DISABLE THE NAGLE ALGORITHM. It's completely harmless and many have done it with no ill effects. Instructions are here. I SERIOUSLY CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, DISABLE THE NAGLE ALGORITHM.

The game uses an old engine and thus can feel clunky, especially when using some of the newest skills, but depending on your computer and latency, the algorithm can make everything feels much clunkier. I actually died a few times after changing my computer before realizing I hadn't turned that off on the new one. The difference can be that important.

[Seriyu]

This is also true! Disabling it will remove the lag you get between pressing a button and a skill loading, along with pretty much all of the other second or two long delays you get.

Another thing on the minimap autopathing, is that if you use shift click, you can set sort've waypoints. So click to an intersection, then shift click up the street you want to go, then shift click down the other street to your destination or whatever.

[SirAaronIII]

Minimap movement is somewhat clumsy, unfortunately. Not much we can do there, aside from waypoints.

As for the camera, you can allow it to zoom further out on the first options screen. Slide the zoom thingie all the way to the right.

If you mean the world is devoid of other players, then yeah, channels 1/2 are the places to go. If it's actual features and stuff.. yeah, I'd have to agree with that somewhat. For example, take Iria, an entire wondrous continent with open skies and beautiful scenery!..... then realize that there's not much to do there besides wander around lost. It's getting better about that, though, with the new addition of ruins and crud to Muyu Desert in Rano..... but they've taken another step back by disabling (pretty sure, anyway) the ability to find hidden treasure there, thereby removing any reason you might have had to wander through that area.
In short, most of the stuff's on Uladh, centered around Dunbarton, as you've noted (I assume that's what you mean by capital because it's in the middle and because the real in-game capital suffers from the same problem as Iria).

Definitely apply to the guild, though; the people almost always can advise you, answer questions, and run stuff with you. You can do this either by going to Port Cobh (east of Dunbarton) and going down the hill til you see the stone that says Fjallheim like in the OP, or you can apply from anywhere by searching for Fjallheim in the guild button of the friends list (F).

[Ibid Straydrink]

If you mean the world is devoid of other players, then yeah, channels 1/2 are the places to go. If it's actual features and stuff.. yeah, I'd have to agree with that somewhat.

It's not so much that there's a shortage of content, as there are reasons to partake in it if it or the rewards does/do not appeal you. Without any substantial form of PvP, the game often lacks the competitive edge that others thrive on. If you're one who likes a generally cooperative atmosphere, fast-paced, real-time combat, customizing the skills and appearance of a potentially godlike anime-style avatar, and just running amuck with friends, Mabinogi has virtually endless content for you. If you're hoping for a grade A story or something more with more state of the art combat or free roam/sandbox mechanics, you're probably better off looking elsewhere between sit downs.

[alexwazer]

Coming soon in you local Mabinogi server:

Mabinogi Aces: Merlin Update

I am not sure if this will be the localized version of the Druid, but it very well could be. Coming tomorrow!

[Ibid Straydrink]

Coming soon in you local Mabinogi server:

Mabinogi Aces: Merlin Update

I am not sure if this will be the localized version of the Druid, but it very well could be. Coming tomorrow!

How characteristically sudden! Might this entail the highly anticipated... snap casting?!

[SirAaronIII]

And Magic Weapon Mastery, and Spell Walk or Moving Cast or whatever it was called. You know, the one that lets you walk with int. magic. Sweet!

e: And Meteor Strike. How could I forget Meteor Strike?!
I'm kinda curious about how they'll handle the cards and rebirths, too.

[alexwazer]

And Meteor! (not that I'm anywhere close to rank 1 fireball and fire mastery, but whatever)

I sure hope this is the update, even if only because it's going to that much closer to the Vate/Whatever it's going to be called one. Besides, it would be a perfect timing for this, since Seikyu, my only character seriously into magic, will be ready to rebirth this Saturday.

Edit: Also yep... confirmed

[Ibid Straydrink]

Did someone say rebirths and/or character cards? What's the news on these..?

[alexwazer]

Based on the patches info from the Korean servers, which also seems to be implied by the Merlin's details of that previous link, the new skills come along with a new Ace talent. This new talent is only available with shop bought cards and give double training for the new skills, along with everything in the current mage/cleric/apothecary talents trees. It also instantly gives novice rank of the new skills. Obtaining those skills is possible without buying a card, but require to meet some prerequisite (rank 1 fire mastery and fireball for meteor; rank 9 meditation and rank 1 Magic mastery for Spellwalk; snap cast is obtained in a similar way to chain cylinder).

Along with those new Ace cards, there might be new hero/elite cards as well that work the same, but only for new characters which start at level 1000 or 1200 with some pre-ranked skills and extra AP. If this is the case... I'm in for some huge dilemma.

1) Use free birth for Seikyu and slowly rank the required skills to eventually get Spellwalk and Meteor.

2) Buy an Ace card (probably after the free rebirth because... hey it's free) and get the new skills and stuff right away.

3) Buy an elite card, forget Seikyu ever existed and just start a new human (because elves suck) that will pretty much, from the start, be better than Seikyu ever was...


Edit: I also predict a double rainbow, triple AP or another AP-heavy event this week-end. Nexon does that a lot when they add new skills, especially if it comes with new talents or any other reasons to get people to buy cards. Nexon has learned that to make people buy stuff, you need to "reward" them in some way.

[Ibid Straydrink]

Logged on a while ago, and as far as I can tell, the event hasn't come into play yet. Halloween is still in effect, and there don't seem to be any special quests or ongoings besides.

[Facekillz058]

I'm all for new content, but...
Yay, more awesome stuff I can plan on never being able to achieve in my natural born life.

[alexwazer]

Logged on a while ago, and as far as I can tell, the event hasn't come into play yet. Halloween is still in effect, and there don't seem to be any special quests or ongoings besides.

Yeah well, the update is later today, so of course there's nothing new now