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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[Girlinhat]

Worth noting that 5 luck gives 1 crit, so In Wonderland actually gives like 9 crit.

Highly suggest you get that card if you can, it's pretty awesome title.  The clothing is mediocre, I was gonna sell mine but the market will be flooded now :s

[SirAaronIII]

Looks like it's time to go digging in the virtual couch for virtual change again. I think I've exhausted most of the good ones, though I'll have to see.

Or maybe I'll legitimately buy it with real money this time.

[Seriyu]

The protection and def is nice too. But yeah the main reason you'll equip the title and never ever remove it is the luck.

[Seriyu]

So I've suddenly and without warning decided the thread needed an update. No it's not a dungeoning update. We'll get there, don't worry. (They take a while to write, and I want time for it). Instead, ANCIENTS!

Ancients are monsters that have spawned and managed to live under the enormous hail of player murder for fifteen minutes FIVE HOURS (my bad). After the turn into an ancient they despawn after another fifteen? I dunno the exact number. But if they poof that's why.

But why would you want to hunt ancients, you ask? Why is this warranting a guide? Have you gone out of your rocker? Well, ancients have 10x HP, 10 def, 10 prot, the works. The title is displayed as "monster name the ancient". They also give 20x EXP and Gold drops. A huge lucky finish from an ancient monster with almost any amount of gold drop will guarentee a 21k drop almost certainly.

But you may be saying WELL LEVELING ISN'T THAT BIG A DEAL AND GOLD COMES FAST AND EASY WHAT'S UP WITH THIS?!

They also drop very powerful equipment and rare items at a low rate. Gems being the most common, and stuff like thames and highlander claymores and bows being among the rarest.

Drops specifically? Refer to the spoiler below.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Gems 10 cm in size

Diamonds of varying sizes

Ancient magic powder

Red and Blue upgrade stones

Fireball page 10 and shock page 1 through 3

Thames armor, gauntlet, and helms

Any piece of the bohemian set

Trinity staves

Highlander Claymores and Bows

Mana Wall Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Diligent Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Count Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Lucky Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Clever Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Special Enchant Scroll
Classic Enchant Scroll
Ecstasy Exclusive Enchant Scroll
Mana Hammer Exclusive Enchant Scroll

Most of those are fairly rare, but the exp and gold on their own is reason enough, believe you me.

So now you're interested and you want to know where to find these mythical beasts, notable areas are pretty much anywhere in iria, but vales inparticular, the little strech of land that leads to ciar dungeon (oddly enough) and generally any place people don't go regularly.

Now, there are some caveats. Namely monsters in dungeons and shadow missions(I think?) will not go ancient. So don't try "ancient farming". That's... honestly it.

More info, do not try to kill an ancient that is ranked boss or awful. Awful is a maybe, boss will almost certainly outlast you. If you have the stamina/mana/HP potions and the know how you might be able to pull it off after forever years. Still not terribly efficient unless you're going for the ancient drop lottery.

So yes. A small guide on ancients and why you should care about them, for those that weren't aware.

[SirAaronIII]

Just watch out from them Tomato the Ancients. They can get to 100 years old in a few days so exercise great caution!!!

[Aklyon]

I saw a Ancient Raccoon in Dugald Isle a few days ago. Just sitting there, staring at the road, watching me and my handcart wander away from it.

[Seriyu]

Fact - Ancient raccoons give the best drops

(not really)

(but they're still a ticket in the ancient lottery so whynot)

[SirAaronIII]

So I decided to go a-huntin' for ancients, went up to Sidhe Sneachta, got thrashed by an ancient coyote with it having like 10 HP left...

I chose to get up right there because that coyote is goin' down...


then Thames Plate Armor dropped and I was like "HELL EYAH" (I lost the ability to spell in my excitement).

[TwilightWalker]

Hurmm, looking over the destinies available that Nao gives me to choose from, Merchant seems like a good choice. Free luck, especially since I don't have the cash to get 'The Wonderland' card, and a bonus to those hard to level crafting skills...

[Seriyu]

Yeah, if you do pretty much any crafting regularly period, you want merchant. If not, pick whatever other skill you intend to level most.

[SirAaronIII]

So. That technique that the common people call "quick shot", where you pretty much skip the whole "aiming" part of archery and shoot off Magnum Shots at a certain point in the animation, and it'll always hit. Does it actually work? I was messing with my crossbow earlier and it feels like it IS possible, but I need to know exactly when. Looks like when you pull your elbow back is the best time.

Also, kiteshield spam. Anyone want a kite shield? Just pop on and ask, we have waaay too many.

[Skyrunner]

Nosuch thing as quickshot :S It's just sample bias. Like the pokemon rumor where you press A to quickly snap out of confusion.

If you have high magnum and shoot straight in front of a monster, you will probably hit it most of the time.

[SirAaronIII]

Oh. Huh, well... I always was a huge sucker for that kind of thing.



Also we found a couple more kite shields I think there are more kiteshields than people online

[Seriyu]

I think he's talking about shot of god which is a programming bug, it allows you to hit enemies even far out of range of the weapon. It requires pretty amazingly precise timing though.

[Skyrunner]

Well, I don't think SoG is needed nor effective at all. You aren't usually called upon to shoot at targets out of your range (dungeons and shadow missions usually enclose you), and a good Ranged or Magnum skill along with the appropriate ranged weapon for your distance will be more reliable.

Quick note on aiming speed and range: the higher the max range, the faster you aim when the target is closer to you. Also, certain bows aim quicker than other ones. So a "shotgun" crossbow, with almost no range but maximized damage/crit, aims slower than a short bow at the same distance. Short bows aim quicker than long bows within their short range, and crossbows and composites are pretty good all around. Longbows are cheap and have the best range, and are often used for drawing out one monster at a time.