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Author Topic: Mabinogi-On Steam! Close combat revamp!  (Read 379786 times)

Seriyu

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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #435 on: July 16, 2012, 05:42:16 am »

Ya know, I checked for you, (I'm assuming you're in the EU), and apparently Mabinogi EU got shut down april of this(?) year? So you might try making an account on the US mabinogi site (It's the one linked in the OP, just sayin), and see if it takes.

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« Reply #436 on: July 16, 2012, 05:48:47 am »

Gonna assume it's not. Last time I tried they do IP checking.
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Seriyu

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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #437 on: July 16, 2012, 06:54:20 am »

Doesn't hurt to try! I know nexon generally lifts IP restrictions if they stop service/before they "add" service to a specific area.

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« Reply #438 on: July 16, 2012, 07:02:42 am »

It costs lots of downloading, but I'll give it a go.
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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #439 on: July 16, 2012, 08:10:05 am »

They lifted the region lock.
I'm a brazilian living in Brazil and I can log and play just fine.
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« Reply #440 on: July 16, 2012, 02:08:12 pm »

They lifted the region lock.
I'm a brazilian living in Brazil and I can log and play just fine.

Wow, mega lurker. Nice to meet you!

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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #441 on: July 16, 2012, 03:53:53 pm »

They lifted the region lock.
I'm a brazilian living in Brazil and I can log and play just fine.

Wow, mega lurker. Nice to meet you!

That's me!

I don't usually post much, 'cause my english is kinda lacky; you know, being brazilian and all... Anyways, this topic is full of glory. Thanks for the tips and what not.
Oh, and nice to meet you too, haha.
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« Reply #442 on: July 16, 2012, 05:11:46 pm »

Meh, your english is quite fine from what I've read so far. Really nothing to be ashamed of there. Maybe it took you an hour to write those few lines and thus you lurk to save yourself the effort, but otherwise don't worry if a few mistakes come up here and there.


On topic, I wanted to mention a sadly left out skill: mana shield. This is a magic skill, obviously, but that can be really useful even (more so?) for non-mages characters. Every damage you receive while the skill is active will affect MP instead of HP. It's got limited use normally since MP pool is either small or needed for better uses, but when combined with transformation (can't remember if Seriyu mentionned those) and you suddenly have a huge MP pool, it can allow you to be a bit more daring. With good timing, it could also save your life if you use it when you know a hit is coming. It doesn't prevent knockbacks however.

Girl, did you ever actually try using tower cylinder (TC) on raft? According to the wiki it's not possible, but never tried it myself and the wiki can be wrong. Would be interested to know if you have first hand experience. Using barrier spikes to create a small wall around you while using TC can be very effective... it's like playing tower defense! Also, no one mentionned theater missions, which are an awesome place to use TC since the whole thing takes place in such a small area and mobs are plentiful. Sadly, can't use barrier spikes there.
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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #443 on: July 16, 2012, 05:35:12 pm »

Ooh, there's also the various Magic Shields (Natural, Ice, Fire, Lightning) but those are pretty useless, even on the raft, where they were supposed to be used: you might as well dish out more damage instead of holding up a shield.

Imo, the shields should get a new passive skill that lets them be cast and then forgotten, so you can do other things. Better than just leaving them as a failed experiment of the game devs.

I think the shadow missions are the best way to get experience, but the dungeons are more fun. Less gloomy. More character.
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« Reply #444 on: July 16, 2012, 05:46:12 pm »

They added pets meant specifically for rafting, they can use the shields and be summoned on raft, unlike others. But yeah, pretty worthless otherwise except in very very limited situations, like... can't think of any right now :-\

As for experience, I mostly stick to commerce. It's as good experience as high-end dungeons or shadow missions, but less risky (somewhat) and is easier to start/stop whenever you want. As far as I am concerned, dungeons are just for loot, fun, some Fun once in a while and more loot.
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« Reply #445 on: July 16, 2012, 05:52:49 pm »

For me, the commerce stuff is even harder than shadow missions, because it takes more time, and being high-level but under-powered, the bandits that appear are too strong for me to take care of. Shadow missions are quicker, less fun, and most efficient generally. o.O

Commerce probably has the best rewards; the expensive swords you can buy are the best in the game :P
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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #446 on: July 16, 2012, 06:20:56 pm »

I've never used a tower cylinder myself, but I've seen youtube of towers on rafts, so I know it's possible - or at least used to be possible.  That guy tore up the rafting.

Ice Shield is a useful skill for ballooning.  There's an area where only ice wyverns appear, and ice shield prevents stagger.  When you get kited out right, you can get two players to harvest stars incredibly easily.  With high-ranked, chain-casting firebolt, you can one-shot the wyverns and get massive rewards.  The big thing, is the infamous Ring Bow, which you get for a rare reward, as well as considerably exp and gold.

Mana Shield is another thing.  It's like a personal shield that covers you, leaving you still able to move and attack as normal, while any attack on you drains MP instead of HP - and it prevents wounds!  At low rank it's less efficient, with 10 damage doing 15 MP drain, but at high levels I think you hit about 30%, so 10 damage would only drain 3 MP.  It's an incredibly useful skill that basically lets you quadruple your staying power, and the people who use it rarely use MP anyways (melee characters).

Commerce doesn't care about your level.  The bandits that spawn ONLY care about your cargo.  Expensive cargo spawns harder bandits, no matter what your level is!  Done right, it's crazy easy money.  Easy enough that there used to be dozens of bots on every channel.  And delicious joy using magic music to lure bears over and watch them all get eaten.

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Re: Mabinogi - Now with a B12 guild! - "Build" recaps, up!
« Reply #447 on: July 16, 2012, 06:39:02 pm »

So I'm tired of talking about skills and numbers and such, so I'm gonna take a day off and do a lore update, because I am a lore nerd. I'll be spoiling all of it for those of you that'd rather see the plot yourself, but there isn't really a whole load of spoilers in this first part, which will primarily be covering the time before the game. Vindictus, I think, is an alternate timeline, so there's not a lot to be said about it in relation to mabinogi's plot.

Spoiler: In the beginning (click to show/hide)

Of note is that while mabinogi's plot is pretty good, it does have a lot of random chunks missing, which may result in some incorrect statements, where things match up wrong. Most of the terms used in it are also used in welsh/irish mythology, also, as a note.
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« Reply #448 on: July 16, 2012, 06:43:10 pm »

I've never used a tower cylinder myself, but I've seen youtube of towers on rafts, so I know it's possible - or at least used to be possible.  That guy tore up the rafting.

Ah right, found the video. It's over a year old, but checking back at all patches since TC were released I see no mention about them concerning rafting. That's something I'll have to test as soon as possible since that would make level exploration much easier for Kyu.
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« Reply #449 on: July 16, 2012, 06:49:38 pm »

It's worth noting that I can still wipe the floor with rafting, especially as the new combat changes have reduced the delay time for crash shot.  I'm a bit out of practice, but last time I rafted I got max stars twice in one run.  So if anyone wants to harvest massive exploration exp, just bring me the wood!

Also I believe the Mabinogi lore has more retcon than Futurama.  Do you know EVERYTHING that happened in that cryo tube?  GOD!
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