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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[Seriyu]

I think I tried Mabinogi back when it was in OB in the US, and again maybe... two years ago? I remember there being lag issues that made anything combat that involved anything more than trading blows impossible and, the second time, it felt very grindy and showing signs of abandonment. Would you say that things have changed since then and it's okay for a semi-casual MMOer?

Okay, for the lag? You'll probably have to disable the Nagle Algorithm. Pretty much everybody in our guild has done it, and unless you are on a VERY limited bandwith cap, it's probably not going to do a thing to your internet, except imrpove the speed. A guide is here. I personally have done it, and have reported no ill effects. It's not as vital as it used to be, but it's still a good thing to do. The recent combat update also made combat a little less lag critical, as load times are very quick, so if you briefly lag while something is running at you, you can still get a defensive skill off. It's possible that some of this was also a sign of not being familiar with the depth of the combat system, which is not very well explained at all. I'd be happy to help with that, along with most other people in the steam chat. I'd say it's a decent casual MMO? You can basically leave it alone and still progress, as you get AP, so if you have to go and do something else for a week, you can at least come back toa bit of AP. And more importantly, since the beta, free rebirths are an option, which makes it far less grindy. It resets your level, and allows you to gain more AP from it. My advice in general, however, is to not get too worried about having an amazing character, because that'll just happen once you get familiar with combat, along with over time. It is a grindy game, but it's not like.... agressively grindy I guess? You can get exp doing pretty much anything, so you just go around and... do stuff you wanna do. If you try to min-max the game, yeah, you'll end up bored.

EDIT: Oh also, most dungeons are fairly long, so you should expect that if you wanna do more then one. If you're only gonna be around for a short period of time, you probably should check the length before you jump in. And if you have any more specific questions, hop in the steam  chat, I'm in there a lot of the time, because I spend too much time on the internet.

Watching this thread keeps making me want to play Mabinogi again D:

How can I unsubscribe? T_T (looks at updated topics list) There's no way~

Do iiiiit, ya know you wanna.

[Skyrunner]

I'm not in America anymore, so no can do

Besides, I'm already spoiled >.>
I have a lot of pets, and an at least competent power level.. in Korea. >.>

It looks like fun though. IMO, Mabinogi is one of the few games that are REALLY fun when you band up with friends and tackle a dungeon that isn't "Planned For 5~6 PCs Of Level 60~63". I remember spending many an hour whiling away time sitting in Dunbarten town square chatting with friends :3

[Seriyu]

Yeah it really is an excellent game when you just forget about trying to be decently set up for it and just hop in, and still manage to clear a good chunk of it. And you'd think, with the semi difficult combat it'd pull in all kinds of "I'm better then you pff" jerks, the community is honestly, usually pretty solid, if a bit chatty for my tastes.

[Ibid Straydrink]

Yeah it really is an excellent game when you just forget about trying to be decently set up for it and just hop in, and still manage to clear a good chunk of it. And you'd think, with the semi difficult combat it'd pull in all kinds of "I'm better then you pff" jerks, the community is honestly, usually pretty solid, if a bit chatty for my tastes.

Good words for Alexina abound. Mari, on the other hand...

Ah, but the grass.

[Seriyu]

Yeah, Mari may well be a different beast altogether, as I recall it was the first server released, and originally had the name "Nao". So it's understandable a lot of the old guns are around there and being crotchety. 

[Ozyton]

Those cat things were a pain. Regular attacks didn't make them flinch, and it almost seemed like magnum shot didn't always knock them back. Either that or I was missing a lot.

As for lag... it doesn't seem to affect anybody else, but I will sometimes get a 4 or 5 second lag spike, perhaps longer, and during that time I'll most likely be dead =<

When you have a party it's not nearly as bad though, since you have people who can save you.

[Seriyu]

Yep, that's natural shield, the ranged equivelent of heavy stander. Magnum shot still should've been knocking them back though, I think.

[Skyrunner]

Some people, like me, like shot gunning with a crossbow.

As in, you raise Ranged Combat Mastery and Magnum Shot, then get a decent crossbow and (1) run in front of target (2) Use Magnum Shot and aim with shift+click (3) Fire immediately.

Aiming speed is inverse to distance, and crossbows probably aim faster iirc. Sadly, this only works once per enemy xD It's shotgunning because of the distinctive smoke-ring effect and the sound of the crossbow

There's also the possibility of modifying your crossbow to decrease range in favor of attack power or critical chance.

[majikero]

When did this dungeon run happen and why wasn't I invited? And Laur bought the maid partner, it's cool that you can buy bandages and feathers from her.

[Elfeater]

Gah, i wish I hadn't had to leave, it looked like you guys had an amazing time...

[alexwazer]

When did this dungeon run happen and why wasn't I invited? And Laur bought the maid partner, it's cool that you can buy bandages and feathers from her.

Happened friday evening/night. We usually use the Steam group chat to organize runs and stuff, so if you want to be invited you should hop in there. Also, have no idea whos your character in-game, you should let Seriyu knows so he can add that to the list in first post.


Elfeater, don't worry too much, that was a mostly standard dungeon run. You'll have a chance to join in some other sooner or later.

[Elfeater]

When did this dungeon run happen and why wasn't I invited? And Laur bought the maid partner, it's cool that you can buy bandages and feathers from her.

Happened friday evening/night. We usually use the Steam group chat to organize runs and stuff, so if you want to be invited you should hop in there. Also, have no idea whos your character in-game, you should let Seriyu knows so he can add that to the list in first post.


Elfeater, don't worry too much, that was a mostly standard dungeon run. You'll have a chance to join in some other sooner or later.

Id be up for a run of an easier dungeon if your up for it.

[majikero]

My character is Acolyte0 but I don't have a Steam account.

[Seriyu]

Oh, that was you? Okay. I'll add you to the OP, and my friend's list, if you're not already on, and I'll try to remember to invite you, but yeah, I reccomend getting a hold of steam and hopping in the chat, it makes things much much easier. I'll still try to let you know in game when we do these though.

[Girlinhat]

Those kitten ninjas are bitches.  They resist normal attacks, but luckily magnum will always knock them back.

BTW I didn't get a bohemian hat.  I already had it all.  The only equipment I gained was the crazy wing-hat from Mobliz/Seriyu, which was adorably awkward and I immediately gifted it to my maid.  She is now 200% more adorably awkward.